[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Bingbang I'm wondering what stat i should be focussing on right now, and need some advice. Below is my armory link in berserker stance. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...=B%C3%ADngbang

Beats me. You have phenomenal gear. Not sure what the problem could be lol. I've read that Str and Crit become the key focus once you have enough unbuffed hit, which you certainly have at over 200. What's your ArP at?

[Asheowyn]

handy guide, especially for little nubby alt warriors like me

[Bingbang]

Source: GarrettJaxx Beats me. You have phenomenal gear. Not sure what the problem could be lol. I've read that Str and Crit become the key focus once you have enough unbuffed hit, which you certainly have at over 200. What's your ArP at?

Well with my current setup, I've only got 84 ArP. I do have an ArP set made up of mostly arena, badge and ZA gear, and the vidicator's ring. Gimps my AP and hit quite a bit though, but should bring my ArP to above 600ish I think.

[Shipoopie]

I am using a MH that is 2.6 and an OH that is 1.8
Is it still recomended to put executioner on my MH and mongoose on my OH when my OH is faster?

[Meeks]

Yes. Those enchants are PPM so the faster your weapon the lower the proc chance. They move in equal ratio. So if you double the attack speed your halve the proc rate.

That being said instant attacks are not calculated into this equation but they use the same proc chance that the PPM forumla creates. So if your wepaon is twice as slow it is twice as likely to proc on bloodthirst and WW.

Also you can proc weapon enchants from your main hand only on bloodthirst.

You will see a lot more procs from your main hand then a fast offhand.

[Alkalindeath]

I'm sorry if you've already answered this but here's the deal, when the patch hit tried out Heartless in my offhand and s2 axe in my mainhand and tried it out for about two weeks and felt rage starved. I only have about 160 hit rating with a slow offhand. Went back to s2 fast offhand for now, but at what level of hit rating do you suggest I go back to a slow offhand. I'm not even sure if I should go back to a slow offhand at all, but as we're about to kill Kael I'd like some input. Also I'm the only DPS warrior in the guild, I hate MS/Slam spec, but do you suggest I take one for the team and go 2h for the good of the raid. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.

Alk

[Dwarman]

Source: Daylanor Decap/Illhoof mace in MH, Malchazeen in OH. I seem to recall 1 sword in SSC that's an upgrade on Decap.

How about Decap MH Feledged Battleaxe OH?

[Dwarman]

Being relatively new to the Fury build, can hardly call it DW anymore since the nerf, again GG on that one, I've been wondering on a few things after reading the posts on this site.

here's my current unbuffed stats now

1553 AP
30% crit rounded down
155 HR
9.3k HP

given my current gear, some upgrades comming soon, i had stacked hit gems to get to this point, given its relatively low, should i keep them, or replace with the STR gems. i worked the numbers on the maxdps site Meeks suggested, seemed to bring up my dps but only marginally, any ideas?

wise man say, "If indeed you are looking for fish, one should not climb a tree"

[Meeks]

At your point it would be a waste of money regemming. Keep what you have and gem differntly as you upgrade.

[Dwarman]

Source: Meeks At your point it would be a waste of money regemming. Keep what you have and gem differntly as you upgrade.

Money is something to be spent more worried about whats more effective, generally spec back and forth between prot/fury at least 4 times a week, so thats not my main concern, and i know you said after 95 HR go with the gems you suggested, while still focusing on HR

[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Dwarman Money is something to be spent more worried about whats more effective, generally spec back and forth between prot/fury at least 4 times a week, so thats not my main concern, and i know you said after 95 HR go with the gems you suggested, while still focusing on HR

OK I'm NOT an expert, but I've enjoyed contributing to this thread immensely. I'd take a long hard look at your stats, and ask yourself if your str is too low. Your AP scales your damage too, and it's still effectively only at 18XX w Battleshout up. Might be some str gems you could consider? Hit is low enough, per Meeks' point not only the waste of money, but also the fact that much lower and you may miss on your offhand a bit more than you'd like. Of course, your bloodthirst damage is my main point in commenting on adding some AP if you can. You can even bring your crit down, for some more AP. The Bloodlust Brooch (badge reward), if you're not using it already is an awesome trinket, which can also pop your AP on a 2 minute cooldown to 2-something (can't recall atm). Romulo's poison vial in Kara would add alot of hit which would let you replace some hit gems down the road, too, that might be a good one to go for. My guess is you may be using alot of PvP gear? I say this 'cause your health's not bad, and your crit is high, but hit is low. All theory ... but that's the name of this forum-site right?! Anyway, the PvP gear is great for crit, but those trinkets are worth focusing on badge- or kara-wise.

Meanwhile, I just upgraded my mainhand Spiteblade (2.7sec, 87.6 dps) w the 91.2 Gladiator's Slicer sword. I'm not a huge pvper but I got the work done to upgrade. You probably all have better lmao. I'm pretty psyched because I wield that and Fool's Bane with +10 expertise and Weapon Mastery, so I feel like I've cut dodges down a bit. Hurrah for a long weekend!

[Dwarman]

After doing alot of thinking and number crunching came up with a way to change up my gear and get my AP up without sacrificing HR, new stats unbuffed

1632 AP
155 HR
28.76 Crit

Realizing i upped my AP at the cost of my crit, easy enough to buff up food, pot and using sharpening stones to keep it adequate, ran a few runs with new setup and was able to bring my dps at the end of the run up by what i consider to be a worthwhile amount, want to say thanks to everyone for posting alot of great information on this site, not like a normal forums, and i really enjoyed learning different things from everyone's style, untill next time, take it easy

[Oreox]

I have a trinket question.

Currently I am using Solarians sapphire and the hourglass. I have a storms deck which I could turn in for a wrath card.

My stats are AP 1808, Hit 164, Crit 32.79. This is without any buffs - not even shout up. Raid buffed I sit at 2800 Ap and 40% crit. (popped to 3378 AP with procs ).

So my question is would the wrath card do me any good? I would have to lose either the hourglass proc - 300 Ap for 10 secs on crit, or the sapphire - 30 stam and 70AP to my party. I crit a lot now anyway so it seems sort of a waste. Any thoughts from someone who has used this card?

I have been a MT prot warrior for 3 years, but we just broke into Hyjal/BT and need less prot warriors so I changed over. So far I am having a blast. Thanks for the thread, it really helped me get the basics down.

[veger69]

Source: Wolvynskye I have came to find that some of the information is pretty good. I do disagree with a few things, I don't think one should stack hit gems, but hit is just as important as AP and Crit. Here is my WWS report from a lurker kill this past weekend Wow Web Stats I have tried a lot of stuff and I find myself working all the time, but at my level in raiding just getting inside of SSC, pushing 1k dps isn't that bad on a boss fight where you can't sweeping strikes and "cheat" dps chart, like I get on trash usually pushing 1200 dps at times. Very informative thou and I definately will look at some of these tips. I know I need to get some IA gear that will push dps even more. Cheers wolvy

We have similar stats wolvy
attk pwr 1955 in zerker, 174 hit, 420 ARP, 32.31 crit
You can get very good results with less hit. Here is my last Lurker fight

WWS Lurker

[Meeks]

Source: Oreox I have a trinket question. Currently I am using Solarians sapphire and the hourglass. I have a storms deck which I could turn in for a wrath card. My stats are AP 1808, Hit 164, Crit 32.79. This is without any buffs - not even shout up. Raid buffed I sit at 2800 Ap and 40% crit. (popped to 3378 AP with procs ). So my question is would the wrath card do me any good? I would have to lose either the hourglass proc - 300 Ap for 10 secs on crit, or the sapphire - 30 stam and 70AP to my party. I crit a lot now anyway so it seems sort of a waste. Any thoughts from someone who has used this card? I have been a MT prot warrior for 3 years, but we just broke into Hyjal/BT and need less prot warriors so I changed over. So far I am having a blast. Thanks for the thread, it really helped me get the basics down.

I would keep the saphire and the hourglass for now. I still use the hourglass myself and it is a great trinket for those whose guilds never saw more then 1 tsunami talisman and gave the one to a rogue who does not even use it anymore.

[Alkalindeath]

I'm sorry if you've already answered this but here's the deal, when the patch hit tried out Heartless in my offhand and s2 axe in my mainhand and tried it out for about two weeks and felt rage starved. I only have about 160 hit rating with a slow offhand. Went back to s2 fast offhand for now, but at what level of hit rating do you suggest I go back to a slow offhand. I'm not even sure if I should go back to a slow offhand at all, but as we're about to kill Kael I'd like some input. Also I'm the only DPS warrior in the guild, I hate MS/Slam spec, but do you suggest I take one for the team and go 2h for the good of the raid. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.

Alk

[skdal]

Source: Alkalindeath I'm sorry if you've already answered this but here's the deal, when the patch hit tried out Heartless in my offhand and s2 axe in my mainhand and tried it out for about two weeks and felt rage starved. I only have about 160 hit rating with a slow offhand. Went back to s2 fast offhand for now, but at what level of hit rating do you suggest I go back to a slow offhand. I'm not even sure if I should go back to a slow offhand at all, but as we're about to kill Kael I'd like some input. Also I'm the only DPS warrior in the guild, I hate MS/Slam spec, but do you suggest I take one for the team and go 2h for the good of the raid. Thanks in advance for the suggestions. Alk

If your guild has a strong melee dps group, I would suggesting going with a 2h/imp slam build. Especially if you are about to enter T6 content where you can pick up a lot of amazing 2h gear.

[Alkalindeath]

Our melee group is the strongest part of the guild so yea.

[Bonerot]

What MH enchant for a newer fury warrior (just switched from prot). One with some gear from kara/heroics/gl level. I don't have any armor reducing at all at the moment.

I've got the s1 gladiator OH'd with potency and I'm looking to enchant my decapitator.

Looks like Armory is working again http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...onar&n=bonerot

I'm thinking it's going to be either potency or mongose. I saw that the guide suggests executioner but then later says not to get armor reducing until you can get a lot.

[Kilgorin]

Source: Bonerot What MH enchant for a newer fury warrior (just switched from prot). One with some gear from kara/heroics/gl level. I don't have any armor reducing at all at the moment. I've got the s1 gladiator OH'd with potency and I'm looking to enchant my decapitator. Looks like Armory is working again http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...onar&n=bonerot I'm thinking it's going to be either potency or mongose. I saw that the guide suggests executioner but then later says not to get armor reducing until you can get a lot.

For a MH weapon I'd say your options are Potency or Executioner. For OH Potency or Mongoose. As for armor penetration, the guide states that you WANT to get Arm Pen, but you don't want to get it too early when you can't support it with high AP/hit/crit.

I don't know if there is a minimum for AP/hit/crit that you want to aim for before starting to stack Arm Pen, but Executioner can give you high Arm Pen on proc, without having to sacrafice elsewhere.