[Kilgorin]

Source: Avandar Sorry, should have been clearer, I have executioner on my MH Decapitator, was wondering what to put on my second OR, would it be better to us a fast OH?

Read this and typed out a response, reread it and changing my post. If you have Ex on 1, go with Potency prolly to get your AP up. It's what I have on my OH Fool's Bane with Ex on my MH Spiteblade. AP is real key to playing Fury so do what you can to get your AP up. That's my opinion.

[dealin]

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

this is my currant build and i was told since i duel weld i should concentrate more points in fury i just dont know where any help in this subject will be great i would like to do more dps than im doing

[Kilgorin]

Source: dealin WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator this is my currant build and i was told since i duel weld i should concentrate more points in fury i just dont know where any help in this subject will be great i would like to do more dps than im doing

Yeah if you do Fury, the standard build is 17 arms and 44 Fury. Really only go 17 into Arms to get the Impale for +20% crit damage.

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Warrior -> Talent Calculator

I'd say that's the standard Fury build, give or take a few points somewhere.

[Avandar]

Source: Kilgorin Read this and typed out a response, reread it and changing my post. If you have Ex on 1, go with Potency prolly to get your AP up. It's what I have on my OH Fool's Bane with Ex on my MH Spiteblade. AP is real key to playing Fury so do what you can to get your AP up. That's my opinion.

Oh well, I went with mongoose on the OH decapitator.


Second question!

Has the debate over slow OH vs fast OH been resolved? And if so, in whoes favor?

[Kilgorin]

I believe the way WW is now, that it's better to go with 2 slow weapons. However if you have rage gen problems that don't allow you to get BT and WW on their CDs then you could do a fast OH for better rage gen. I think most people say that they can get a little more out of 2 slow weaps then 2 fast weaps or a slow and a fast.

[Dwarman]

So i still havent gone mace or axe smithing yet, trying to decide before i commit which of the two is best for our build, is the chance on hit with the Dragonstrike better then the solid stats on the axe?

To me it seems the mace is best for a Rogue while the axe is best for warriors having the main stats we tend to focus on, AP and Crit but i just dont know enough yet to have it all laid out, any advice?

[Filup]

Ok I am a warrior in ssc/tk. I have really low hit rating, I am wondering if I should stack more hit in exchange for other stats.

I use Maxdps.com for most of my info on gear. Even at the low hit rating i have it still shows crit/ap/ignore armor as being better stats.

I feel like my slow off hand is missing too much but it’s been hard for me to get some good wwstats reads with diff hit ratings and a faster offhand. I have even thought about getting the Merciless Glads Off hand for cheap.

Current Stats w/ Battle shout in zerk stance.
2380ap
32.71% crit
118 hit rating
20 Haste
426 Ignore Armor

Please any info would be helpful. Also here is my armory page

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ch...rusher&n=Filup

If you have any suggestions they would be appreciated.

[Kilgorin]

Source: Filup Ok I am a warrior in ssc/tk. I have really low hit rating, I am wondering if I should stack more hit in exchange for other stats. I use Maxdps.com for most of my info on gear. Even at the low hit rating i have it still shows crit/ap/ignore armor as being better stats. I feel like my slow off hand is missing too much but it’s been hard for me to get some good wwstats reads with diff hit ratings and a faster offhand. I have even thought about getting the Merciless Glads Off hand for cheap. Current Stats w/ Battle shout in zerk stance. 2380ap 32.71% crit 118 hit rating 20 Haste 426 Ignore Armor Please any info would be helpful. Also here is my armory page The World of Warcraft Armory If you have any suggestions they would be appreciated.

K. Looking at your gear I'd say you could probably go with the heroics gloves, they'll give you 25 hit rating, and also the Exalted Violet Eye ring for another 25. That's probably the best thing you can do without having to gem for hit, which of course is not recommended. Aside from maybe trying to gather up t5 gear which I think is VERY good for fury.

[GarrettJaxx]

DW and Expertise/Weapon Mastery question here ...

When I DW a mace and sword I get racial bonuses for both (human) which adds to my expertise, stacking with my 2 pts in Weapon Mastery to prevent dodge.

But when I DW two swords, I get only half the Expertise rating (5 vs. 10).

I think this is broken - I don't see why in theorycraft DW two of the same weapons would not equal (or surpass?) the value of two different weapons. I'd consider myself an expert with 2 blades as easily as w a blade and a blunt.

Wondering if anyone has ever seen a blue comment on this, or if anyone cares?

[Kazeyonoma]

its working as intended, it only gives 1 bonus if you have at least 1 of the weapon types. If anything you should only get it based on 1 of them not both. Currently humans with both mace/swords can get 5 more expertise than orcs can since we only have 1 weapon specialization. but that's another argument all together. =P

[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Kazeyonoma its working as intended, it only gives 1 bonus if you have at least 1 of the weapon types. If anything you should only get it based on 1 of them not both. Currently humans with both mace/swords can get 5 more expertise than orcs can since we only have 1 weapon specialization. but that's another argument all together. =P

Thx - they're so bad at catching this stuff.

[vicutu]

hi guys, been a fan of this guide for a long time. I'm fury since i got dual-wield and love it. We downed Gruul (our first) last week and i had a ~650 dps at gruul kill fight. Is it normal? Can i do more? I use the BT-WW-BT...rotation.

this is my armory profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...am&n=Vogelsang (zerk stance on)
my main question is - is this dps normal for my gear (got the upgrades list)

[GarrettJaxx]

650 is pretty good against Gruul.

[Dwarman]

Was rereading up on some things and rediscovered the post you made about how you were more often then not threat capped then rage starved, even when you dropped your HR down to 170, wondered what that did to your damage output, ive been considering doing the same with my HR, dropping it from 192 down to 170, raiding in TK and SSC and comming in 10th to 13th on the charts makes me wonder if what im doing stat wise is just plain wrong, but also a bit hesitant to drop my hit by that much to pick up 8% crit strike rating and 16 more AP

192 hit
1920 ap
27.50 crit

feels liek with my stats i should be able to preform better then what i am, and i think it lies with my hit rating, like i said, considering dropping it down by replacing 2/3 +8 hit gems ive got left, good or bad idea based off of what you saw by doing this, in the instances my guilds currently running?

[veger69]

Source: Dwarman Was rereading up on some things and rediscovered the post you made about how you were more often then not threat capped then rage starved, even when you dropped your HR down to 170, wondered what that did to your damage output, ive been considering doing the same with my HR, dropping it from 192 down to 170, raiding in TK and SSC and comming in 10th to 13th on the charts makes me wonder if what im doing stat wise is just plain wrong, but also a bit hesitant to drop my hit by that much to pick up 8% crit strike rating and 16 more AP 192 hit 1920 ap 27.50 crit feels liek with my stats i should be able to preform better then what i am, and i think it lies with my hit rating, like i said, considering dropping it down by replacing 2/3 +8 hit gems ive got left, good or bad idea based off of what you saw by doing this, in the instances my guilds currently running?

I currently raid with about 140-150 hit and I am typicaly #1 unless there is a melee unfriendly factor then im usually #2-3 all done with gear out of SSC/TK get rid of the hit gems man

Man first off you could improve your gear easily with badges. Get dory's embrace the leather tabi badge boots and a bloodlust broach. Replace bladefist with the hourglass out of heroic BM or a Darkmoon Fair crit card. Not as easy but doable start saving arena points and replace helm with any helm that takes a meta, preferably S2-S3 pvp helm or engineering helm and use the +3% crit damage meta. Replace your hit gems for DPS gems like +8 str, +8 crit, inscribed noble topazes +4str +4crit and lastly Replace rings with S3 ring and ring of a thousand marks. That would be a good start.

[Dwarman]

Hmm, think the armory is out of whack, i havent used the bladesfist in ages LoL, The World of Warcraft Armory, but yea, i decided to go ahead and replace the last two +8 hit gems ive got, my gear is actually fairly similar to what you've got Barmbul, so when i read your post i had a step back and really thought it out about what im doing thats throwing me off this far. but thanks, ill go ahead and toss out the last two +8 hit gems ive got and rethink that

[Dwarman]

Hmm, think the armory is out of whack, i havent used the bladesfist in ages LoL, The World of Warcraft Armory,

Well i went ahead and replaced those last two hit gems, so we'll see how it goes, makes me nervous, that and the fact my class leader and guild mates are laughing at my hit which made me second guess a few things but ill roll with it and see how it goes rather then second guess everyone else here heh, my gear is actually fairly similar to what you've got Barmbul, so when i read your post i had a step back and really thought it out about what im doing thats throwing me off this far from you.

who knows, could be my offhand weapon, could be, anything, lack of knowlege on my rotations which im still figuring out, mostly wanted for tanking due to the perception on my server that warriors cant dps, dont get many chances to prove them wrong well thanks and yea, working on Dory's embrace for my last badge reward and vindicators ring so we'll see if the extra arp helps out any, thanks for the reply Barmul

[Dwarman]

sorry for double post, got an error message saying my post didnt go through so i reposted to find out it did in fact, go through, go figure

[veger69]

lol sorry man was looking for a link for your gear and grabbed the armory link from the next poster down. Could not find your link. The only problem I have seen is with the low hit some times on trash ill have streaky dps because of miss streaks but on bosses it is not a problem and will only get better as you upgrade to better pieces with hit in BT/hyjal. Oh and my guild was killing Leo for probably the last time before we drop it from the schedule and the Tsunami dropped Woot!!! I have my endgame trinks now!!!!!

[Vonage]

Hey, I was looking at the new badge gear and I noticed that all the new badge plate dps gear has haste on it and no crit. Is it just me or is that a horrible idea? I haven't run any numbers or anything, but isn't crit a much better stat than haste? Thoughtful replies appreciated, thanks.