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Old 07-11-2009, 01:39 PM
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Make 4 Macros.

One is:

/cast Mangle (Bear)()
/cast Maul ()

Next:

/cast Lacerate ()
/cast Maul ()

Then:

/Cast Swipe (Bear) ()
/cast Maul ()

Lastly:

/cast Faerie Fire (Feral) ()
/cast Maul

Use these only when you have enough rage. This saves you having to hit Maul manually, so you get more Mauls in and should increase your dps a decent deal.

Your Armory is still showing some odd gem / enchant choices which I covered in a previous post, may want to go back and check it again. Spec looks ok.

-Fenier
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:21 PM
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Without Improved Mangled, your basic rotation is ==Faerie Fire (Feral) --> Mangle --> Lacerate --> Lacerate== and just repeat.
Swipe is slightly more threat than Lacerate, so after you hit a 5-stack you can start swapping that in, just don't let lacerate fall off. You can macro it all together, but if you do exchange Lacerate for Swipe, it could just be a hinderance.

If you do macro it together:
/castsquence Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate(), Lacerate()
/cast Maul

Naturally the Maul is in there for infinite rage scenarios. Really you can just put the abilites on easily accessable keys (for example the "2-3-4-4" rotation Warriors would use in BC) Remember if you pop Berserk you will need to use a Lacerate at least once in there to make sure it doesn't fall off, so if you do end up using a macro you'd need to keep Mangle and Lacerate bound to other keys anyway so it may just be easier not to use a macro. If you don't need to keep Demo roar up you could take the 5 points from Feral Aggression to pick up Master Shapeshifter to further increase your DPS (The 4% is multiplicative with the 10% from Naturalist, so instead of 114% it's really 114.4%)

EDIT: Also enchant your chest
I know it's not the "ideal" rotation, but I use:

Starter:
Mangle-FFF-Lacerate-Lacerate
Mangle-FFF-Lacerate-Lacerate
Mangle-FFF-Lacerate-Swipe
Mangle-FFF-Swipe-Swipe

and after that I hit Lacerate instead of Swipe every *3rd* swipe. Ideal is 4th, but my hit is lowish [130ish, 4%] so I prefer to have an extra attempt to hit with it. I also agree with the Fenier, the macros helped immensely when I started using them.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:26 AM
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OK Fenier, I've done some changes. Changed my spec up some to include Primal Fury, changed some enchants and gems. It should look a little better, but I am apparently still having problems with my rotation. Are ya'll using a macro? If so, how is it setup? I've tried setting one up, but it's not working like it should. I'm only doing on avg, around 1200 DPS. I can burst up to around 1700, and I believe I hit 2K once before, but I don't remember what I was using as a rotation. The 2K was hit in 25-man Uld when I MTed XT-002.

Any suggestions or advice would br greatly appreciated. TY!
Macroing maul into everything is perfectly fine. It can cause some problems (if you have Maul Glyph) with breaking CC on a few vezax trash pulls and do some unwanted damage when doing Razorscale achievement. But otherwise its fantastic to have.

As ad-hoc solution you can use a more elaborate cast sequence macro. (I blatantly stole this idea from a blog which I can not find for whatever reason). In an utopian scenario you will have to refresh lacerate every 13-14 seconds or so.

Basically, you can do a castsequence macro that does:

Mangle - 0 sec
FFF - 1.5 sec
Lacerate - 3 sec
Swipe - 4.5 sec
Mangle - 6 sec
FFF - 7.5 sec
Swipe - 9 sec
Swipe - 10.5 sec
Mangle - 12 sec
FFF - 13.5 sec
Swipe - 15 sec
Swipe - 16.5 sec

Castsequence macros arent great since the rotation will be thrown off everytime you do a Demoralizing Roar for example. Also Mangle will require a separate button since you cant use this rotation when you pop Berserk.

Make sure you bind maul into the macro. Macro's arent as good as the real deal since this one assumes you will ALWAYS hit with lacerate. If you miss it will drop. But this can maybe help you get started.

/edit: This assumes you do not have IMP mangle.
/edit2: A macro like this should only be used when you have 5 stacks of lacerate.

Last edited by adizs; 07-13-2009 at 04:26 AM..
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:15 PM
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My chest has been enchanted with Super Stats for awhile, and as far as the gems and such go, what is wrong with them? Which ones do you see that you question?

Thank you for the help with that macro. I shall try that out later when I can actually get online for more than 5 minutes.

Adizs, how would I set that macro up? I don't understand the times you put on there. Is that the reset times, or the approx times that I should be doing the command? They're 1.5 secs apart I see.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:51 PM
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Thank you for the help with that macro. I shall try that out later when I can actually get online for more than 5 minutes.

Adizs, how would I set that macro up? I don't understand the times you put on there. Is that the reset times, or the approx times that I should be doing the command? They're 1.5 secs apart I see.
You can also stick a reset in the macro to auto-reset it when you stop using it. Note that if you keep spamming it the reset will never kick in. (/castsequence reset=# Ability, Ability...)

As for Adizs' macro, it's the same principle as the one I gave you. You just move abilities around. I always start with Faerie Fire as it's ranged, but that's just my preference. Just a side note about the times he put, Faerie Fire does a 1.0s GCD, not 1.5s. With the 6s cooldown on Mangle, you'll still be waiting that extra half second to use it though (Using another Swipe/Lacerate while waiting that half second will hurt your threat though)

/castsqequence Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Lacerate(), Swipe (Bear)(), etc...
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:49 PM
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You can also stick a reset in the macro to auto-reset it when you stop using it. Note that if you keep spamming it the reset will never kick in. (/castsequence reset=# Ability, Ability...)

As for Adizs' macro, it's the same principle as the one I gave you. You just move abilities around. I always start with Faerie Fire as it's ranged, but that's just my preference. Just a side note about the times he put, Faerie Fire does a 1.0s GCD, not 1.5s. With the 6s cooldown on Mangle, you'll still be waiting that extra half second to use it though (Using another Swipe/Lacerate while waiting that half second will hurt your threat though)

/castsqequence Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Lacerate(), Swipe (Bear)(), etc...
Ah great! I didnt know FFF had 1 sec GCD. Then that macro is a bit off indeed.

And ofc you can swap what abilities you like around. For example you maybe want to start with a lacerate to make sure its the first ability to get the ball rolling so to speak.
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Old 07-14-2009, 05:20 AM
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My chest has been enchanted with Super Stats for awhile, and as far as the gems and such go, what is wrong with them? Which ones do you see that you question?
Gloves: Dodge Gem, change to Agi or Agi / Stamina
Bracer: +6 Stats Gem, change to agi or Agi / Stamina
Bracer: +6 Stats Enchant, change to +40 Stamina
Boots: +32 AP Enchant, change to 22 Stamina or 15 Stamina + Runspeed
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