[dotJEM]

Hello...

I'm just going to throw this out there...
I have NEVER had threat issues on my Death Knight, usually I Have been able to keep around 6K stable (with the +/- 2.5K up and down)...

That was a few patches ago, since then i haven't tanked much, the other day i returned and now I am struggling with getting 4K stable TPS...

Is DK's just broken in that manor, or what are other DK's experience... and what is your spec/rotation/spell priorities...

Im Frost/Unholy (Frost as mainspec, unholy as offspec, both thanking specs)...
Gear level is most Ulduar 25 and a few Toc 10/25...

Any input is welcome...

[Glittersmith]

Our blood tank don't seem to have any threat problems at the moment.

[Pwnanapuddin]

One of the primary reasons a DK starts showing a loss in threat is because you are not keeping up with the DPS with your weapons.

One remedy if you have decent avoidance is to use the DPS trinket instead of the dodge one. While the other is getting a new weapon.

[dotJEM]

Source: Pwnanapuddin One of the primary reasons a DK starts showing a loss in threat is because you are not keeping up with the DPS with your weapons. One remedy if you have decent avoidance is to use the DPS trinket instead of the dodge one. While the other is getting a new weapon.

I Know this, but this is not how the drop has occured... it's not in an advance on content, it's the same content where i have dropped 2k tps roughly... without any change at all, except for patches where FS has gotten a nerf for one, then another one... after the patch where FS got the nerf, i haven't keept track of what has happened, since i switched to druid as main...

Thats why I'm wondering... Is it either me who has to switch play style... (Go DW as frost tank, favor other spells/talents ect)...
Or have we as tank taken a hit on threat. (Blood won't be a switch i will make, ultimately I have tried it and i can't get comfortable with it's rotations)

Also, my weapon is one of the better ones i can get from Uld25...
i know that a new weapon can help... but i stopped on content where i can't get an upgrade... you should hardly be required to clear harder content to manage threat in lower content... ?

[Salidus]

IMO go to blood tanking. I did that on my DK and have little threat issues save my ele shammy liking to pull mobs/boss then ele mastery and lava burst. Depending how I feel I let him die cause he is a friend. Anywho I think that frost tanking atm is really in DW other than that I feel more gimped TPS wise tanking in frost spec then blood spec.

[Satorri]

Also, one giant factor:

If you haven't tanked in a while, you're no doubt rusty. DK tanking is a thing that improves greatly with practice and experience, and when you stop for a period of time you forget some of your comfort and it takes time to pick it back up.


There's no particular loss of threat that I've seen from a patch or otherwise, nothing but nicks and cuts that weren't particularly without balance. FS got a little nerf, that's true though, but it shouldn't cause a 30% cut in threat.

You said you are 2h Frost correct? What's your methodology (rotation if you like)?

[Lulia]

Frost tanking took some hits in 3.2 because of frost dps in the way of Frost Strike, which was a huge threat generator (still is of course). I went Blood, but Frost Tanks should still be able to hold their own with proper gear.

[Mert]

How are you measuring it by the way? If you've noticed it just from glancing at Omen then I wouldn't worry too much unless you're threatcapping your DPS. Omen's TPS numbers are often a bit twitchy but the total threat is usually spot-on. If you've noticed a dip in terms of your sustained, either in parses or simply by taking total over seconds then it's worth looking into the reasons, but if it's just Omen farting numbers at you I wouldn't worry for now and get some parses done to double check everything.

[Bashal]

I honestly wouldn't worry about your TPS unless people are pulling off you all the time, or complaining that they are burning all their threat reduction talents and still pulling from you easily.

A tank's threat is really only an issue if it is so low you are significantly capping your DPS's output. If the DPSer's complaint is that they actually have to use their aggro reduction cooldowns, or that they have to spec into threat reduction talents, slap them, please. Slap them hard.

[Salidus]

Yeah pretty much what these guys said. Though I did notice for maybe a week or so when 3.2(or 3.2.2) that I lost on average about 2.5-3k TPS don't ask me how. Could be I messed up my rotations (Not likely since I had been used to them for about 5 months) to I just had a bad RNG day on my damage. But I ended up trying about 10-15 specs tweaking here and there to figure out what I could do better (Also trying unholy tanking spec) But then we had that little patch come in and I went back to blood and am now back up to 6-8.5kTPS (Glancing at omen of course. I've spiked to about 12kish) But I still hold threat on my DPS. Well except with that damned ele shammy of course. Nasty little buggers