[Bigmoomma]

Any thoughts? Should be pretty clear, we have a ret pally that has some bodacious tanking gear and can easily spec prot and tank those skellies with no issue at all - however, he's also a great dps (Much better than I am currently) and with the changes on 3.0 it would be convienent for our guild if I could OT the skellies instead of him. I havn't had any experience on the fight myself yet, however, I'm geared appropriatly for sunwell and have tanked Kalecgos fairly decently, and even brut (even though we didn't down him while I was tanking being squishy wasn't an issue).

Any thoughts? With DS / Shockwave / Tclap changes, is that enough to warrent our pally staying ret? He's our only ret pally too. :s

[Narshe]

Divine Wrath now also stuns the skellies, plus shockwave.... I think there may be no chance to tank those if you manage to chain stun them with ur 2-3 paladins and you xDDDDD
However, remember dpsers are gonna have more damage aswell, so you just need to try and check if you can hold aggro... if not, a pally should do.

[agill15806]

ummmm idk it seems like with damage shield you need to pick up initial aggro; with shock wave you might pick up some threat but im not sure if that is enough since they will be stunned for 4 seconds at which point you wont be doing any damage from damage shield. pally consecrate would be doing constant damage.

keep the pally on adds 3.0 nerfs ftw 30% right? dps shouldnt be an issue.

[Lore]

I kind of envy Warriors for Felmyst, because Shockwave and Thunder Clap are significantly easier to use on the run than Consecration. I tend to only get 2-3 ticks in per Consecrate when she's being annoying. Also, TC >>>>>> Consecrate for picking them up (although HotR, 8 second taunt, and instant cast Avenger's Shield will help Pallies a lot there too).

You should be more than fine.

[Navlelo]

Source: Lore (although HotR, 8 second taunt, and instant cast Avenger's Shield will help Pallies a lot there too).

not to mention now instant holy wrath

[Bigmoomma]

Source: Lore I kind of envy Warriors for Felmyst, because Shockwave and Thunder Clap are significantly easier to use on the run than Consecration. I tend to only get 2-3 ticks in per Consecrate when she's being annoying. Also, TC >>>>>> Consecrate for picking them up (although HotR, 8 second taunt, and instant cast Avenger's Shield will help Pallies a lot there too). You should be more than fine.

That's what I just what I wanted to hear and who I wanted to hear it from. I'll give it a try and see if it's still a bit rough. In combat charge should lend a big hand to picking them up too I think - but we'll see.

[Dots]

Source: Lore Also, TC >>>>>> Consecrate for picking them up

This sounds highly unlikely considering that TC has a 6 second cooldown. Easy pickup is Consecrate's strength because it keeps ticking all the time. If a healer takes aggro early, they can just run the mobs through Consecrate.
That said, I'm sure it's very doable for either class.

[Kakuzuu]

Source: Dots This sounds highly unlikely considering that TC has a 6 second cooldown. Easy pickup is Consecrate's strength because it keeps ticking all the time. If a healer takes aggro early, they can just run the mobs through Consecrate. That said, I'm sure it's very doable for either class.

mobs can run right through consecrate without aggroing to the tank.

[Dots]

Not if the healer stands right behind it so the mob will stay in the Consecrate area?

[EarlofPrunes]

Yes, today we did felmyst with 2 prot warriors and a feral druid it was simple. Normally we used a prot pally. Basically sunwell is nerfed to oblivion. Enjoy!

[Bigmoomma]

Source: EarlofPrunes Yes, today we did felmyst with 2 prot warriors and a feral druid it was simple. Normally we used a prot pally. Basically sunwell is nerfed to oblivion. Enjoy!

Awesome that's what I want to hear. Thanks. I am feeling secure in my ability to do it after two days of dicking around. I know I wouldn't have TOO much of an issue picking them up now.

[Darksend]

our mt warrior soloed all the skellies and aoe still went nuts and killed em before the 1st breath.


(killing her before she flies a second time also makes it much easier to pick up skellies)

[Kossaks]

i guess im spoiled on that fight becuase our pally gets everything but maybe 2 of the skeletons but they were stun locked for the 5 seconds they were alive

[Lore]

I'd like to know what kind of strategy you guys are using that makes all the skeletons spawn in the same place and puts the entire raid on the other side of it, because I have absolutely no hope of picking up every single skeleton until everyone's collapsed.

I can drop a consecrate at the beginning of a beam and get the first 3-4 from that. Then I can either follow the beam way out from the start (which usually means I completely miss the second beam), or I can run across to where the other beam starts and do the same but not pick up the extra skellies that spawn from the first. I can Holy Wrath but only if all the skeletons happen to be within 10 yards of me, I can AS 3 skellies per beam phase if they happen to be close enough to each other, and if I get really lucky I can taunt ~6 more off of healers.

[Dragaan]

it really doesnt matter. We did sunwell last night and I had no issue with the skellys. We only went through one air phase also. Every fight in sunwell is ridiculously easy now and lasts only about 2 minutes. You don't have to worry about stuff like this at ALL.

[Lexxaa]

i did it a couple of days ago with 2 prot wars and a ret pally with a shield on - they tank pretty damn well as ret from what i am told and between the other 2 prot wars in the fight it was cake.

[Bellanca]

Source: Bigmoomma Any thoughts? Should be pretty clear, we have a ret pally that has some bodacious tanking gear and can easily spec prot and tank those skellies with no issue at all - however, he's also a great dps (Much better than I am currently) and with the changes on 3.0 it would be convienent for our guild if I could OT the skellies instead of him. I havn't had any experience on the fight myself yet, however, I'm geared appropriatly for sunwell and have tanked Kalecgos fairly decently, and even brut (even though we didn't down him while I was tanking being squishy wasn't an issue). Any thoughts? With DS / Shockwave / Tclap changes, is that enough to warrent our pally staying ret? He's our only ret pally too. :s

My guild did this for our Felmyst kill this weekend.

Our usual MT tanked Felmyst, and I was on Skelly duty. Be sure to build up a full rage bar before Felmyst takes off, run to the green beam where the skellys will spawn, start with a TC, then a Shockwave, then use Demo Shout to collect them to you while you run into your respective positions. I was using a Force Reactive Disk, Stormchops food buff, and engineering grenades when they were all in position - there wasn't a problem keeping them all on me.

Just be sure you have a mark over your head so anyone with skellies on them knows where you are to come to you. If you're feeling a little shaky about your threat, and you're not an engineer, you can also drink an Oil of Immolation.

You're also better geared than I am, so it should be cake for you

Good luck!

[Rocki]

I've never done Sunwell before, but we did have BT and MH on farm pre-3.0. Last night we didn't have the suited tanks to take a stab at Kalec so we went TK and SSC for epic lulz. Went in there with our prot war MT, myself (usually fury, but tank gear that could handle bloodboil prepatch) and one of our healers' prot warrior alt (kara/badge gear). Didn't use a single sheep on the trash, and after A'lar I respecced Arms for the rest. On Kael we had the alt tanking the axe, and our MT tanking ALL the other weapons (except bow for obvious reasons). Gave our tank 6 seconds to get off a 2nd TC and AoE started on the weapons... not a single problem. Same thing with lurker trash, the alt tank was peeling off the biggest mob, MT handled all the rest, and AoE was flying.

TL;DR: prot wars can AoE tank just fine now. Also, AoE is king for trash now.

[Sirq]

Our moonkin tanks quite some of them aswell -.-'

[Nardd]

A warrior can definitely tank all the skeletons no problem. If you really need to just blow challenging shout since she should die before a second air phase.