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We used to clear the right stair going to Capacitus then the left stair going to the elevator. We now only clear the right stair and go towards Capacitus and the minibosses.

The lady boss is still annoying as always though
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I've tried doing that but you effectively only skip 3 groups of mobs by going left and right and skipping middle.

And yes she is annoying, but they just nerfed her elemental movespeed slightly so that might help in kiting them around.
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Elemental speed difference isn't huge, but big enough to make kiting and tanking at the same time little bit easier. I think it was also mentioned in patch notes that those arcane elementals have now less hitpoints. Did full run today with no wipes, group was prot warrior(me), 3xwarlocks and resto druid (DoT+HoT kiting ftw).
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lol, 3 warlocks is probably the best makeup for the 2nd boss evar. haha.
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Okay, now you've got some moving space. Tough part #2

These demon things are friggen annoying. If you've got a lock, banish one. Here's teh trick... You aren't gonna tank. Split them up as best as possible, they're not elite, but in groups they deal masive damage, so designate 1 target per person, there's 4 i think so 1 per dps. And go nuts, pull em back, move em around, spread em out, and just take em down fast. I normally do a weird Charge in, whack em, run out, move em, intercept in, whack em, run out, back and forth, till they drop. Don't worry about dying here, its gonna happen... A lot, as long as you kill 1 or 2, the 2nd time back you won't have any trouble cleaning it up. (Thanks to Sair for this): They have a targeting mechanic that seems to go for the closest possible person, so just have people run in and out to spread out damage between people, if you can pull them all apart like I suggested than they shouldn't be a problem at all.

I bring good tidings: the Mechanar Tinkerer you refer to is Enslaveable by a Warlock.

Here's what I would suggest if you have a Warlock (and probably should!) in your party:

Get him to Enslave one and have it spam the ranged bomb-attacks on the others. He can Banish one if he wants, but it's not compulsory. Get the Enslaved Tinkerer to "tank" the other Tinkerers while DPS makes sure they don't steal aggro off him.

The Healer can keep healing that Enslaved Demon while the tank can just sit still and help by grabbing aggro off any DPS who do manage to steal aggro somehow.

When there's only 2 Tinkerers left (including the Enslaved one), just let it die. Or kill everything until there's only the Enslaved one left and drop him after Enslave expires.

Repeat the tactic for any similar pulls.

EDIT: Dang, didn't see it already posted in the previous pages. IMBLINDOHNOEZ

(maybe you should put a note on the first post about this as well, mate?)
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will do, for a while they weren't enslavable in heroic, they musta changed it back.
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thanks for the guide brother!
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This HC must be the most easy together with SP. Pitty Sun eater never drops for me.

I always go lto the left stairs kill mini boss, pull 1st boss and then down 2nd mini boss. Skip 2nd boss and down last boss, get angry @ drop rate of sun eater and then down 2nd boss.
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nice guide.

Has anyone ever comfired the stair thing with capacitus as being legit or not? It's not mentioned in the guide but a lot of groups use it. I for one dont like it as it sounds exploitish.


I've usually done heroic mech via clear right and clear left (avoid middle), with the reasoning is that the group avoids pulls with more than 2 bomber mobs and we usually had at least 3 melee (me rogue enh sham). It makes it easier for our healer (resto sham).


What works if you dont have a lock to make the left only clear easier is to go with an Arcane Resist set. i sit at 490 def and 252 arcane resist for that one. It's enough to mitigate ~50% of the bombers damage. You can get to 187 AR with the enchanted adamantite set and cloak of arcane evasion (with AR chant). Incidentally i use my AR set to tank capacitus as well. Enables me to be stationary most of the times, soaking up the bombs as they come.


I have a similar set up of FR gear for sepethra (~250 FR). With a shaman or pallly, i'm up to 320 FR, which helps resist her fire breath (agro wipe) and allows me to take hits from an infernal (i move when the infernal starts to pulse). A big key for the fight with regards to agro is keeping your back against the wall for the knockback she occasionally does. Positioning wise, i've recently is from a tip i saw on wowhead or something: Take sepethra to one side of the room. kiter's take the infernals to the other end, trying to minimize flame trails crossing the middle of the room. This allows the healer to position in the middle of the room, in range of tank and kiters. By taking the infernals to the far end of the room, it seems to help dps time on boss as the infernal needs to make it's way back to the other end of the room. It's still fairly chaotic and a scramble overall for the party.
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Just wanted to add my 2 copper.

Thanks for the guide. Btw, the perfect group for H Mech is not tank/healer/3 warlocks but in fact tank/healer/warlock/spriest and either mage/hunter.

I say this because spriests make the gauntlet before the last boss absolutely cake and are the best CC on humanoid casters bar none. They simply MC one of the mobs in each wave and use it to kill the others (Astromancer is a good choice as these suckers blast for 4-5k dmg). Then they keep the last mob MCed, while everyone manas up, makes some small talk and have a nice cup of tea. Eliminating the stress of going into the next wave with low mana.

Of course I know this because my main is a spriest. Hehe.

Btw they have done something to the trick of running out to reset mobs. Now when you do that, 90% of the time they bug out horribly inside walls and continue nuking you while you can't target them.

For Panthaleon, he MCs the person nearest to him who is not the aggro target (i.e. not the tank). If he MCs a rogue as is usually the case its usually GG cos healer gets owned. For this reason I usually get the least important DPS class in the group for this fight (e.g. hunter ;p cos he can't fear the adds and does poor dmg in melee range) to stack right on top of Panthaleon (if we have a melee dpser) to ensure that he is the one who gets MCed.
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works grait

conferming that this works grait, im a paladin tank and tanked this instenc meny times (sun eater on the ferst run)

and after doing it on normul this whas ruffly my conclution to doing it as fast and smuth as posebull, my fastest time is 41min i think, not bad for 5 bages befor the nerf, only add i haw is on last boss adds is whery easy tanked whith AoE taunt then 1 fear, ushely dosent taik mor untill boss dies so 1 fear shud most defently be inuff to maik boss easy
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I was told the bridge trick with the 2nd boss doesn't work anymore.
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Do I still have the bridge trick listed here? lemme review and i'll delete it if so.
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Also, when tanking the destroyers your "Spell Reflect" skill executes like twice instead of the usual one during his "Charged Fist" phase. Usually I shield bash, concussion blow, etc. him out of it. If I don't however, I put up spell reflect and shoot back about 5K worth of damage, making it a lot easier for the healer.

I've gone through heroic mech like...20 times now. Still no Sun Eater. I'm hoping to replace my Honor's Call soon.
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nice

Awesome guide man. Gonna be extremely helpful since i'm just starting heroics.
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very nice guide, i made exalted before sun eater dropped and i always hated the bombing demons without a warlock. ill try to spread em out next time

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I've never ran a H-Mech group that I didn't tank Mechano-Lord Capacitus on the stairs.

The BEST setup is to have a Hunter Misdirect the boss from around the corner while the tank is already positioned on the stairs. (This works well cause you can pop Bloodrage as soon as you enter combat, then gain the full benefits of it before the boss even gets to you, giving you ample rage to generate alot of burst threat).

Failing that, the tank can attempt to position the boss on the floor by the stairs himself, but Capacitus likes to follow you up the stairs sometimes, which can cause real havok if you can't get him back off the stairs. His enormous hitbox makes this a little difficult. (If this happens, make the DPS stop immediately, or they WILL pull aggro while you're trying to reposition). Careful footwork is necessary here to avoid an unnecessary wipe.

I've never encountered the enrage.


Excellent guide, btw. H-Mech is, by far, my favorite Badge-farming instance. It's a shame they nerf'd the badge count in 2.3 (and removed the exploit in 2.4).
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O yea for first boss definitely have hunter MD around the wall while tank stands on stairs and bloodrages to take the bombs out of the fight.

For Path, today ran with a group with only me and a lock for fears. After 2 wipes I just held him in the skinny hallway part and Thunder clapped the hell outta the adds holding their aggro while the pally healed me through their damage. worked like a charm!
P.S. Sun eater dropped on my second run on H mech but was ninja'd but then dropped on my next run right after haha
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Hi All,

First off, awesome guide Kaze

I just ran my first H Mech last night and apart from being disapointed by Panthaleon not droping Sun Eater....things went quite smooth. My HP was spiking quite bad though since im just short of that magic Def goal.(My sig is not actually up to date, current def is 483) Lucky healer was up to it

I can also confirm that tanking Capacitous on the stairs still works.
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I ran my first HMech last night as well. It went fairly smoothly. Tanked Capacitus on the stairs with no issue (makes it seriously easy!), wiped on a Destroyer when I missed the charged fist interrupt (tried spell reflecting the ones I missed after that, and it worked), we ended up skipping the second boss, wiped once on the gauntlet at the end (mis-communication) and took out the last boss who dropped a truckload of loot! Wow! I think all my runs will be Heroics from now on! lol No Sun Eater unfortunately, but the priest I was with got her epic boots, and I got another Primal Nether towards my Blazeguard so no complaints.

Many thanks for the guide, I read about 3 times before the run and was glad to have a good idea of how to do it.

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