[frater]

Looking for some tips on this fight. We got him down the first time we tried him on heroic but have struggled with him other times.

When he explodes into small water elementals and everyone starts burning them down, once the big guy come sback do you bother trying to kite him away from the remaining ones or do you just let him get the small heals and keep burning him down?

The last time we tried kiting him but in both cases we had the bad luck of healers getting interrupted healing due to knockbacks and resulting in unlucky deaths.

i am wondering if this strategy is worth it or should we just focus on the burn down.

Any other strategies you guys have employed to good effect?

[Cn0]

I don't move him at all, and just burn.

[Volador]

I kite him and have my DPS kill the adds. Sometimes it results in chaos, but for the most part, it ends well for us.

[Tenderheart]

We use the defenses on this boss every time. There are little red lever things around the room. You can use them twice. So the first two times he summons adds, just pull the lever. It kills all the adds. Then you have to burn the third set. Trivializes the fight.

[Inaoe]

I use his kick when he explodes to kick me to one of that things you can use to destroy the small elementals. first time to the back wall, 2nd and 3rd time left and right of the stairs. This way I can immediately destroy the adds and charge back to the boss.

[Satrina]

Source: Tenderheart We use the defenses on this boss every time. There are little red lever things around the room. You can use them twice. So the first two times he summons adds, just pull the lever. It kills all the adds. Then you have to burn the third set. Trivializes the fight.

This. Once you've got the achievement for not using the add killers to beat the instance, who cares if you use them?

[blackhand]

I just make sure that as the tank you get back to the healer. If you are going for the boss achivement just let your healer know so they will keep up with you.

[Tierax]

When he explodes into small water elementals and everyone starts burning them down, once the big guy come sback do you bother trying to kite him away from the remaining ones or do you just let him get the small heals and keep burning him down?

As far as I'm aware, as long as his water shield is up he is immune to most damage. Have the DPS focus only on the adds until he loses his water shield.

[Jayman]

Ok, I am having some issues with Heroics in general because I am just starting to participate in them. Sticking with Ichoron for this thread, I post this problem. I (being a paladin) am having a hard time keeping aggro off of the healer when the adds are killed and Ichoron pops back up again. I do all the same things that I do to keep aggro in any other event (SoR, JoR, HotR, Consec, etc..)but when the Defensive shield of Ichoron is up the damage is low and he seems to wander after my group mates.

One person suggested that the gear of the healer (+healing) was well above that of mine to generate threat. /scratch dunno. Any Ideas?

Thanks

[Alent]

Source: Jayman Ok, I am having some issues with Heroics in general because I am just starting to participate in them. Sticking with Ichoron for this thread, I post this problem. I (being a paladin) am having a hard time keeping aggro off of the healer when the adds are killed and Ichoron pops back up again. I do all the same things that I do to keep aggro in any other event (SoR, JoR, HotR, Consec, etc..)but when the Defensive shield of Ichoron is up the damage is low and he seems to wander after my group mates. One person suggested that the gear of the healer (+healing) was well above that of mine to generate threat. /scratch dunno. Any Ideas? Thanks

Watch for spawn, hit holy shield before he does, Taunt. use shield slam and seal of vengeance. Blocked damage, righteous shield slam and seal of vengeance applications all have "added threat" that will give you a reasonably good threat lead and she should honestly explode again before you have a chance to lose aggro.

[Jayman]

Thanks for the advice. I will certainly give it a try and see if it helps.

[clavarnway]

When using the defenses to kill all the droplets note it has like a 10 second cast time. Start it as soon as Ichoron explodes, even before adds are spawned.

[Darmaul]

Source: Tierax As far as I'm aware, as long as his water shield is up he is immune to most damage. Have the DPS focus only on the adds until he loses his water shield.

This is not a good idea. His water shield has charges that are consumed by attacks. If you're not attacking him then he's not going to lose his water shield.

You do need to kill the adds (I use the defense mechanism as mentioned above), they appeared to heal him if they merged with him. Just making the point that you can't stand around waiting for his shield to go away.

Best way is to position yourself so when he explodes you land right beside the activator and immediately start channeling it. It takes like 6 seconds to channel and then a slight delay before it bangs. If you wait at all, you'll be too late.

[Demianu27]

Source: Darmaul Best way is to position yourself so when he explodes you land right beside the activator and immediately start channeling it. It takes like 6 seconds to channel and then a slight delay before it bangs. If you wait at all, you'll be too late.

^^ that's what you want to do.

Personally I like to have someone else use the activators. I just spell reflect the push back and wait for his respawn for an easy grab.

[Fuzzy]

Kite him away from the adds while DPS pew pews them. He spawns usually where he disapeared from, so easy to keep an eye on.

I have a healer who gets offended if we use switches.

[Hit Me]

I've only had to fight Ichoron a couple times on Heroic, but we've never had any problems. We would pull him up by the Doors so the adds had to travel through a choke point and a considerable distance to reach him. I stay near the boss to pick him back up while dps goes ape on the adds. I also keep my back to the wall to keep knockbacks from annoying me too much and the healer stays on the other side of the door to minimalize damage to them. A few adds usually get to him, but it's not enough to cause too much trouble.

The first time we ran H VH, we were able to get the achievement for the 100% door and no crystals used even though we fought Ichoron.

[taek]

I've also found that tanking him right at the VH doors is the best location. This funnels the adds into AEs/traps that the DPS can place at the stairs while the device is activating.

Make sure your healer is not near the doors, as the boss can aggro the healer when he spawns.

[Beubo]

Hey Guys im new to tanking and am having issues with the last 25%, what happens is he reappears after he disburses and I die in seconds, I know he enrages but I shouldnt be going down that quickly, Im a feral druid tank and I know i have SI/barkskin etc but it seems like I go down way too quick, I shouldnt have to pop those things when he appears right?

I have 21k self buffed, and during the night had 24k buffed. I have 20100 armor, cant remember my dodge.

Looking back on the fight I'm taking about 5-6k per hit with 4.5k waterbolt.
I seem to take about 4 hits and a waterbolt without a heal, not too sure what the timeframes are. So not sure if its my fault, heals fault...dunno, just frustrating

[uglybbtoo]

It is a basic if somewhat misunderstood fight

Each time it appears and targetable he has http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54306 on him. Raid job is to expend those charges as fast as possible using the FASTEST SPELLS they have NOT the HIGHEST DPS. When he explodes he does Water Blast - Spell - World of Warcraft and at regular periods he does Water Bolt Volley - Spell - World of Warcraft.

Your threat is diminished by 99% healing agro isn't and some spells aren't like chaos bolt from locks you need to keep taunt on him whenever he is in shield.

If you aren't going to use defense crystals the idea is not to tank him in the middle of the room but up one of the ramps to limit knockback and funnel the adds which spawn evenly on the platform areas around the room into one place. You are trying to kill these adds before they reach his body when the shield exploded as they heal him.

while he is in the shield the swing timer is 2 seconds and they will either be http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59521 or a normal melee swing of 3-4K on plate tank.

Typical log looks like
0:00'25.054 Ichoron gains Protective Bubble.
0:00'28.280 Ichoron Water Bolt Volley hits Uglybbtoo for 3958 Frost.
0:00'30.038 Ichoron melee swing hits Uglybbtoo for 3990 Physical. (1058 Blocked)
0:00'32.193 Ichoron melee swing hits Uglybbtoo for 3617 Physical. (1058 Blocked)

At 25% he gains frenzy and the swings are on a 1 sec timer and damage is amped up by 25%

Typical log

0:00'53.825 Ichoron gains Frenzy.
0:00'55.388 Ichoron attack was parried by Uglybbtoo.
0:00'56.277 Ichoron melee swing hits Uglybbtoo for 5070 Physical.
0:00'57.254 Ichoron melee swing hits Uglybbtoo for 5855 Physical. (1058 Blocked)
0:00'58.314 Ichoron melee swing hits Uglybbtoo for 5458 Physical. (1058 Blocked)

So the tank killer is going into 25% frenzy without tank at full health.

Edit: Your base HP stats are right at the marginal end 24K HP buffed your healer is going to have to bring there A game to heal you thru it or you need to blow a shield wall at that point and try and hang on.

[jafager]

Just use the defense crystals, it trivializes the fight and you don't need them for any other boss.

VH is not an instance you want to fool around with doing things the hard way, if you're not at the "lol, heroics" stage. Clearing twelve waves of trash over and over and over because you keep wiping on a potentially facerollable boss like Ichoron won't do anything for your blood pressure