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Old 10-15-2008, 10:11 AM
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Easy "Sword and Board" macro?

I was wondering if you guys could lend me your macro knowledge for a macro idea I had while doing Aq40 last night for my C'thun achievement. (Fun fight by the way)

Anyways, I kept missing S&B procs because I was so used to my standard rotation, and I kept the global cooldown running. It was becoming tedious to have to watch for S&B constantly, so I had 2 ideas for a macro to help with this.

1) If it is possible to do some sort of if / then statement of:
If S&B, then Shield slam. That could be attached to our devestates and revenges.

2) Alternatively, would it work to just add:

/cast Shield slam

into the top of a devestate and revenge? I my logic is sound, if S&B has proc'd, shield slam should get priority over Devs and Revs, but if it hasn't, Devs and Revs would go uninterupted.


If someone could give me any thoughts on whether this is doable or not I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:30 AM
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1) macros are designed to NOT make decisions for you so there is no if/then structure

2) I tried that macro and I never shield slammed until I selected it manually.


My option is to hunt for an aura watching addon to give me a warning when S&B, TtB, or SD procs.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:58 AM
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possibly what you can do is have a cast random macro built into your other abilities.

So you still want shield slam as your 1 key for example
#2 key will be /castrandom Revenge, Shield Slam
#3 key will be /castrandom Devastate, Shield Slam

if Shield Slam is on CD, it'll just skip it entirely and force it to use the other abilities listed.

Worth a try. This way, if a S&B procs, you'll POSSIBLY random it and it'll fire while doing your standard rotation, but still, there's the chance that it randoms the base ability (dev or rev) and not fire your shield slam, but this'll help with your reaction time for sure, and will catch most of your snb shield slams for you, but you'll still have to "try" to hit #1 key to ss when you notice it.

Let me know if it works cuz I was considering this but haven't spec'd prot yet.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:03 AM
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I'm sure a MSBT warning or that Power Auras thing could give you a decent warning.

MSBT even can play a sound so record yourself saying "My shield, your face, they should meet." put it in and when you hear it, you hit SS.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:11 AM
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lol, yeh but sometimes you've already hit the next dev button when it happens, of course you have 10 seconds to react, but my macros might be able to automagically get that 1 gcd earlier shield slam in for you =P
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:33 PM
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Both Revenge and Devastate trigger the global cooldown, so the /cast Shield Slam afterwards will never get triggered.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:14 PM
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Both Revenge and Devastate trigger the global cooldown, so the /cast Shield Slam afterwards will never get triggered.
I think he's saying /cast Shield Slam before.

This should work:

Macro 1:

/cast Shield Slam
/cast Devastate


Macro 2:

/cast Shield Slam
/cast Revenge


I didn't test it but you should only get a "Can't do this now" before doing a devasted/revenge or a shield slam if it's ready.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:19 PM
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Unfortunately, no, that won't work.

For abilities that use the global cooldown, you can't use "fall through" logic anymore.

For example, a macro like
/cast Shield Slam
/cast Devastate

will cast Shield Slam if it is ready, and just fail if it is not. It will never cast Devastate. That's why Kaz suggested the /castrandom as an option.

The only time something like this will work is when it involves something that is not on the GCD. For example:
/cast Shield Slam
/cast Heroic Strike

That will either fire a shield slam and queue a heroic strike, or just queue a heroic strike if shield slam is on cooldown.

Does that help?
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:27 PM
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so does my castrandom not work?
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:33 PM
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Thanks guys, i figured I'd at least ask.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:00 PM
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I just did this:


Made a frame for one buff, scaled it nice and big and filter SnB into it.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:08 PM
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Is that SCT Sat? If so can you PM me with your settings or post them on here? ATM my SCT looks like crap.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:10 PM
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That's MSBT.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:45 PM
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1) macros are designed to NOT make decisions for you so there is no if/then structure

2) I tried that macro and I never shield slammed until I selected it manually.


My option is to hunt for an aura watching addon to give me a warning when S&B, TtB, or SD procs.
Both MSBT and SCT will alert you to SnB procs. Both track incoming buffs, and you can also make custom event triggers for such an event - I made one for a full sunder stack in MSBT, since it didn't come with one. It's pretty simple to do.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:08 PM
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The big SnB icon is from Satrina Buff Frames, but yes I am using MSBT. Those are just the default settings actually, I haven't got around to customising yet.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:09 PM
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I didn't even notice the icon until you mentioned it just now :P
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:27 PM
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Oh hey, I just noticed that the screenshot happens to show MSBT popping a Sword and Board message =)
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:36 PM
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Yeah, that's the incoming buff alert. You could create a custom event trigger for SWORD AND BOARD or something similar, much like it alerts you for Overpower, Revenge, Execute, and whatever.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:04 AM
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Here is macro that I am using when I am lazy it should be working for you.

/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence Bloodrage, Commanding Shout
/castrandom Devastate, Revenge, Revenge, Shield Slam, Shield Slam, Shield Slam, Shield Slam
/cast Shield Block
/cast Heroic Strike
/startattack
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:12 AM
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forgive my ignorance, but MSBT ?
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