[Naka]

Just tried this out for the first time and it's simply an excellent addon. Great work.
I have two questions though:

- I set up a target debuff frame with "My debuffs" (i suppose it does what it says). Is there an easy way to add some "external" debuffs, like Faerie Fire, to that frame? And btw. what exactly does "Castable debuffs" mean?
- Is it possible to display the Sunder Armor stacks on the target debuff?

[Satrina]

I hate minimap buttons, so you're out of luck. Besides, it's not the sort of addon you tend to change the configuration of a whole lot. /sbf isn't so hard to remember =)

The code for buffs for any unit is the same, so stacks of sunder should appear normally. I'll look into that.

Castable debuffs = debuffs that I can cast. For a warrior, demo shout, thunder clap, sunder, etc. are castable. My debuffs = debuffs that I actually did put on the mob. That option is less useful for warriors than for, say, a warlock. We only care that someone has debuffed the mob, whereas each of 3 warlocks want to make sure their curse is on the mob.

As for mix and match buffs on other units, the current implementation of buffs for other units is just a limited stepping stone to where I want to go. People have been asking for about a year for target debuffs, so I wanted to get a framework in that I can build on, and build a simple interface to get it going. If all goes as planned, there will be a major filter revamp in version 3.1 and you will have all sorts of flexibility for auras on other units.

That said, I may set up something like the Spells tab on the Units tab to give more flexibility in display for the interim.

[Naka]

Alright. Let me know if you need any additional information regarding the stacks.

[bosephus]

Just started using this, and it's a great tool. Took me a bit of tweaking to get everything right, but you've built a good system for it. Thanks.

I have one issue - I don't get mouseover tooltips on buffs in my first two frames, but they appear in my third and fourth frames. The option to suppress tooltips is turned off. Have I missed something somewhere?

Edit: nevermind, I guess the buffs i was looking at didn't have mouseover tooltips! Nevermind...

[Satrina]

Hrm, everything should have tooltips of some sort. If you can remember what buffs they were, I'd appreciate it!

[Warwench]

I'm stuck trying to work out how to get buffs I cast on Frame 1, and everything else on Frame 2 .. i like a bar (that i make bigger) with just my procs and things I have cast, like demo shout, battle shout, Vigilance etc etc.

Any hint on what I need to do for that?

[Satrina]

Funny you should ask that. I just today added the "my" filter into my local build, which moves the buffs that you actually cast to whatever frame.

== That filter won't be in until tomorrow, in beta 12. If you try this tonight, it won't work because the filter doesn't exist in beta 11.

What you usually want to do instead of messing around with frames 1 and 2 is this:
- Create a new frame (say it's frame 3)
- Set up frames 1 and 3 however you want them to look and move em around.
- Create a filter on the filters tab - 3:my
Now the buffs you cast will go into frame 3, and all other buffs will go into frame 1

You don't usually put things in frame 2 because that's where the debuffs go by default, so you get buffs and debuffs all mixed together. You can do some tricks with filters to put debuffs into a different frame, but you may as well just make the new frame and filter buffs into it as above and leave the debuffs in frame 2. You can also use sticky to flow debuffs onto the end of your buffs in frame 1 without mixing them up. I really need to update the documentation on the SBF site to reflect all of this =)

Now vigilance doesn't show up as a buff on you, only the person you cast it on. Tracking a buff that you cast on an arbitrary someone in your raid isn't in SBF 3.0, but it's going to be in SBF 3.1.

[bosephus]

Source: Satrina Hrm, everything should have tooltips of some sort. If you can remember what buffs they were, I'd appreciate it!

Actually, what I figured out was going on is that I had a ticket opened to a GM. The ticket 'box' apparently is bigger than it looks, as when I moved the buff frames down just a smidgen, the tooltips appeared again. They were not visibly covered by the ticket notification, but they acted as if they were covered.

[Satrina]

Beta 15 is up, and I corrected two problems in ButtonFacade that were causing big performance problems when the two were mixed. Assuming nobody reports anything big in the next day or so, Beta 15 will be promoted to release over the weekend.

I've also updated SBF's homepage for the new 3.0 stuff: SBF's home page

[baronen]

was wondering if im just stupid or if you could tell me if there is a way with SBF to setup a certain "row" with buffs say Nr 3 for me with my own debuffs on the target and show em as bars, i know how to make the third and how to setup it to bars.
what im thinking is how you change so it sees my debuffs only (if its even possible) what i mean with my own debuffs is like sunder,TC,demo, etc etc.

[Satrina]

In general, you can find the answer to pretty much everything here: Satrina Buff Frames

- create the frame you want and set it up as you want
- go to the units tab, select target in the list
- using the debuffs dropdown, select the frame you just made
- if you check off "castable debuffs", it will show TC, demo, etc. that any warrior put on the mob
- if you check off "my debuffs", it will show only those that you actually put on the mob

[baronen]

Source: Satrina In general, you can find the answer to pretty much everything here: Satrina Buff Frames - create the frame you want and set it up as you want - go to the units tab, select target in the list - using the debuffs dropdown, select the frame you just made - if you check off "castable debuffs", it will show TC, demo, etc. that any warrior put on the mob - if you check off "my debuffs", it will show only those that you actually put on the mob

works like a charm, thanks!

[baronen]

Hey satrina, i think i fucked up my buff frames and i cant get em back, ill explain.
so i had my 3 frames and i liked how they looked and where they where etc.
so i logg my warlock (alt) and was going to copy the same setting from my warrior, (i have done this before on my mage and it worked fine) and ofc i did something stupid, instead of choosing copy i choose to "use" my warriors setup, then when i realised what i had done i switched back and did the copy instead. following happend:
i get a error saying something like interface/SBFOptions/.lua smt (i dont know how to extract the whole string, if you say how i can do it).
and hte problem is that i cant get options up AND the frames aint showing anymore, so currently i play without it, but they are sooo nice so if you know the problem please help =).
was wondering if there is some way to reset it all to defaults or smt? and i mean just the satrina frames, not my entire UI then im gonna cry =D
P.S i got the latest version realeased on curse.com

[Satrina]

Log out then delete

.../World of Warcraft/WTF/Account/YOURACCOUNTNAME/SavedVariables/SatrinaBuffFrame.lua

Log in and all will be reset

[baronen]

Thanks!

[Naka]

Satrina, did you have a chance to look at the stack display yet?
I still can't see them on SBF, Pitbull displays them just fine:

[Satrina]

Hm, my target debuffs show sunder stacks just fine.

Dumb question: You did check off "Show buff counts" in the Counts tab for the frame you're showing target's debuffs in, yes?

[Naka]

*headdesk*

I was sure i already checked that, but... well...

Thanks.

[Caulle]

Making a couple of major changes to my UI right now, and SBF might be one of them. So far, I like the addon a lot. It took some fooling around to figure out how the options work, but in the end I get a bit more control over layouts than I do with EBB which is awesome.

First things first, I assume by default that Buff Frame 1 is for your buffs, and Buff Frame 2 is for your debuffs correct? I'm just used to EBB calling things by what they are, not bar numbers.

The big thing is creating new bars with specific filters. From my other UIs, it's pretty simple what I'm looking to do. A new bar that has filtered target debuffs. I'm not quite sure the best way to go about this with SBF. Under "Units" I see Castable Debuffs and My Debuffs. My Debuffs are all well and good, but there are a few debuffs from other classes I want to see in there too. I assume I handle this through the "Spells" tab, and similar to EBB I need to have a target with the debuffs first to populate the list. If I set the bar to Castable Debuffs, will it just show everything on a mob until I go through the list and check off "Do not show this buff"?

[Satrina]

Yep, frame 1 is buffs, frame 2 is debuffs.

Castable Debuffs are buffs that you can cast. As a warrior, that means you would see TClap, Demo Shout, etc. no matter which warrior cast it. My Debuffs would show you those buffs only if you cast them (My Debuffs is aimed more towards warlocks who need to know that the curse they cast is on, and so forth)

You may want to wait for 3.1 to go if what you need is finer control over exactly what shows for target/focus/etc. 3.0 included other targets in very broad strokes. You can see all, or what my class can cast, or what I actually did cast. What I am working on now is a revamp of the filter system/spells tab to support fine grained control of what gets shown for any unit. Currently the Spells tab only applies to you, the player.

Since I'm starting from zero, suggestions for how to handle grouping and filtering of target (I say target, but it can be any unit) debuffs.

Another thing in 3.1 is the ability to name the buff frames yourself to keep track of what's what. Some people have 10-15 buff frames in their setups!