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Paladin Add Tanking....

CatabriOnEarthen — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:54:55 GMT

Ok, everyone knows that paladins make the best add tanks...at least that's what I keep getting told.

I, however, am not so great at it. Part of it is movement, camera spinning gives me vertigo. Part of it is my computer is old and clunky. I can't do anything about getting ill trying to chase adds, I can't replace the computer unless I win the lottery....so, are there any tips for either not having to spin myself dizzy (Jaraxxus comes to mind)?

I hate tanking H:VH for the same reason...constant looking for portals makes me feel icky.

General Analyzing Parses and getting the most use out of them

Thegreatme — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:23:44 GMT

the use of online parsers has become almost a standard for most PvE guilds out there. the power of these utilies are vast and incredibly useful if you know what to look for.

the goal of this thread is to be a place where people can discuss what they/their guilds look for in their parses to get the most out of them. I plan on probably editing this post as people post things so there can be an organized list of things you can look for.

You can post anything regarding parses, from what you look for related to you, or seeing who was slacking in the raid.

so lets get started shall we?

One place I personally had a ton of fun analyzing parses what when my guild was learning heroic 25 twins. this is is because depending on your strat the damage you take can be directly linked to what you do (meaning you are accountable for nearly all damage you take).

In our strat we would have people who got light/dark touch'ed clear their debuffs as fast as possible. by looking at how many times they got the debuff and how much damage they took I was able to calculate a lot of things (sadly I can't link the original parse because it has expired :( sorry) :

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                    Avg. dmg per                           avg. ticks per         Average uptime per 

Name               Application      # of applications      Application          application in seconds     

Schlarb:             46,830                   7                 9.71                         19.46

Narayan:             31,353                   4                 6.50                         13.45

Noodledoodle:        26,014                   7                 5.71                         12.96

Pontifex:            24,730                   1                 5.00                          9.90 

Zipo:                18,417                   3                 4.00                         10.43

Olldrac:             18,194                   6                 4.33                         12.75

Monmoth:             16,066                  14                 3.50                          7.89

Mairyonette:         15,855                   6                 4.00                          9.10

Taij:                14,986                   7                 3.29                          8.63

Zate:                11,132                   7                 2.43                          5.69

Pferox:              11,025                   3                 2.33                          6.16

Athanyel:            10,925                  13                 2.08                          5.14

Makoro:              10,179                   9                 2.11                          5.20

viodia:               9,239                   7                 2.00                          6.74

Menelaz:              8,913                   7                 2.00                          4.60

Hiromi:               7,126                   5                 1.60                          3.56

Vindra:               6,525                   5                 1.60                          4.34

Obstacle:             6,225                   5                 1.60                          3.78

Xplotion:             6,212                   3                 1.66                          4.06

Aquasheepa:           5,943                   4                 1.25                          3.40

Thegreatme:           5,642                   6                 1.16                          3.05

Fireatwill:           5,371                   7                 1.16                          2.91

Sky:                  5,241                   4                 1.25                          3.50

Poseidondd:           3,812                   9                 0.77                          2.67

 

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With this info we were able to tell who was failing at clearing their debuffs and who wasn't and then act accordingly to who was in the group the next night

I also did some calculations involving how many wrong color orbs each person was taking damage from per attempt but it was directly correlated to how long the person was alive (longer life = more damage taken) so I won't post that data.

Other things I look at when analyzing parses for my self and other fury warriors is the ideal number of WW/BT uses compared to the actual number of uses in relation to their active DPS time. I also will check how many slams were used in relation to how many times bloodsurge proc'ed.

When analyzing my DPS I will check what buffs I had and what the uptime on each buff was.

A big thing that my guild looks at for our DPS is target switches. weather it be snobolds on beasts or portals on jaraxxus, we anaylze who who did the least ammount of damage to adds and why, we check their DPS time on the adds, compare their number of abilities used to other people of the same class that were in the raid, were there extenuating circumstances like getting legion flame, etc.

For fights like anub'arak it is my job to demo shout the adds when they get in range, and do my best to not let it fall (vindication screws with it because it overrides demo shout but only lasts 10 seconds and not 45). to do this I look at things like this:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

Now because the % uptime is calculated based on total combat time I look at the uptime of deadly poison because we have our rogues run out to TotT the burrowers when they start running in, so it is going to basically be the highest uptime possible.

From this I can see that when you combine the uptime of vindication with the uptime of demo shout, the burrowers have some form of AP reduction debuff on them nearly the entire time they were up, which is what I want.

There are tons of different ways of analyzing parses... if you think there is anything special that you/your guild does that you think might help other guilds out post it here. I will be editing this post to add some other things that my guild does when I remeber them.

Warrior Low DPS - Regemming needed??

Bonsakaboo — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:00:29 GMT

I am not sure where to go from here. I have 32.23% ArP from gear and from what I've read that is when I should start gemming for more ArP. So I get +20 ArP gems and put them almost everywhere. My problem is that I am having a hard time averaging 3.5k DPS in 25 ToC. I am new to the game so the keybindings are still new to me (I mean they are not always automatic). When I hit the heroic training dummy I can rarely get over 3k dps. My rotation that I try to maintain is Rend > MS > Overpower when available > Execute when available and HS when i have enough rage. I use Bladestorm whenever it is not on CD and I use Cleave when attacking more than 1 target.

My question is my gear gemmed right and if not should i regem back to Str gems or do I just need to work on rotation more.

Armory Link Below

The World of Warcraft Armory

Thanks in advance

Deathknight Glyph of Indom

Neglar — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:36:24 GMT

My Tank is 3/4 25ToC/10HToC geared (40k health, etc) (The World of Warcraft Armory) and my role is generally a MT.

I was wondering what your opinions of the Glyph of Indomitability vs the Brewfest Trinkets/Black Heart (Which is normally what I use right now.. stupid Jugger trinket hasn't dropped for me yet :( )

I like the extra armor/dodge use.. but losing just about 2k health makes makes me want to cry lol..

What do you think? (This is for raid progression.. H25ToC, H10ToC, Icecrown when it comes out)

Patch 3.3 Back ground Downloader Error

Blasterion — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:12:35 GMT

Microsoft C++ Runtime error

I am worried that my computer isn't going to patch 3.3 any 1 know about this?

General WoW Launch issue

MellvarTank — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:40:36 GMT

I just noticed a hacked account thread and thought I would share what was communicated to me through an un-related in game ticket.

If you launch the game and before you enter it asks for your info: You need to close the window and run an anti-virus scan. A GM included this info on the response to a ticket I submitted and had said that it is a malware that looks exactly like the WoW Launcher, but it asks for account info.

So for everyone who reads tankspot... spread the word. Account hacks aren't fun for anyone.

[A] US - Velocity | 3/5 ToGC25 | 9 hours

Nalda — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:39:44 GMT

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Druid Heal me.....

freakouthealer — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:49:28 GMT

Help please somebody anybody,

I am new to this so if i am doing something wrong please tell me. This will most likely be long winded but i want to get as much advice as i can.

I am the only resto druid in the guild and relay the only raiding druid.

I am in a 10 man raiding guild. My healing gets the job done but its not quite enough. I feel as though i am not doing enough for my guild. And i get stressed out of my mind at times. i feel that i am not doing enough which in turn stresses the MT who is also the raid leader. who is always sitting beside me while raiding. which can be bad because we can wipe is he is stressing because i am stressed. I have only been playing for over a year and i started playing wow because my partners guild needed a reliable healer.

I am well geared i have my 4 set tear 9 and a non-set helm of equal rating. i have the moonshadow armguards(245), polished dragonslayer's signet (245 ring), band of the invoker(245 ring), boots of the pertified forest(219), belt of the winters solistice (232), blinding light (232), spark of hope (219) getting the talisman of resurgence, i also have the wail of the Val'kyr(245).

Now that you all know what gear i have, here are some stats for you 2383 is my bonus healing is at self buffed. mana regen is 738 non-combat and 414 in-combat. haste is at 449 that is down from my 700+ before i re-gemed to get more SP.

-Was that the right thing to do?
-what glyphs do i need?
-what gems are good?
-spellpower or intellect which one or is there a healthy mix?
-what is a good group make-up for me to be in for the guild to get the most out of it?

i think that all :) any help would be great.

Druid Druid Tank - BIG Stam/Agi little Crit and Att

Martial — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:47:31 GMT

Hi Guys,

Char: Martial Realm:EU Stormrage

As a relatively new Tank i've been tryin to gear up (as you can see, long way to go yet but getting there). I've been slamming Stam gems into my gear but tryin not to become a Stam junkie so have used a fair bit few Agi gems/enchants as well.

The issue i've got (and i'm sure my Bear Brethren have been thru the same thing) is now i'm pretty low on attack power and crit resulting in my being able to take a great amount of damage but sometimes having to work hard to keep aggro. Whats a good balance?

I know it takes time out to reply to a thread like this so thanks in advance to anyone who replies

P.S. to Ciderhelm and the team
I LOVE THIS SITE! thanks for putting in the work for making this an incredible research tool for every guildie who likes to raid (and ofc us tanks /flex :D)

New Articles & Guilds System

Ciderhelm — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:26 GMT

We have a new articles system on TankSpot which automatically creates static pages for our official content. It also creates specially-formatted pages for guild recruitment threads on the site (example). We'll be explaining the system in more depth soon!

Forum Maintenace This Weekend

Ciderhelm — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:18:20 GMT

We have a ton of work on our plate with the forums and bringing them in line with the new template. Ideally we'd like to clean up a lot of the excess code and possibly rebuild the entire template from scratch. We are no longer planning on upgrading to vBulletin 4, the primary reason being that we're building a custom replacement for what we wanted in vB4. As always, we may change our minds!

Warrior IceHud Custom Cool Down Bar

jjokeefe — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:25:00 GMT

I have IceHud which lets you create some Custom Cool Down Bars. However, it wants you to put in the name of the ability, and I'm a bit lost. What are the names it is looking for to be typed in for Shield Slam and Shield Block?

If it's just Shield Slam and Shield Block like that? Or is it some other way of formatting the command?

I realize this may be very nubbish, but that would fit the poster :)

How to avoid the fire DOT in the Gormok encounter

tillara — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:06:09 GMT

I can't see this mentioned in a thread anywhere, so just thought I'd share this little trick.

Levitate works to avoid the nasty fire DoT from Gormok encounter. You take the initial hit from the fire, but no flames appear on the ground and no DoT is placed.

Makes the whole arena area seem much more friendly when its not covered in burning patches. Obviously it keeps the priest busy since the initial hit breaks the levitate, but it makes for a much easier encounter.

Oh and it also seems that snobolds don't attack shapeshifted druids (*cheer*) , we're toying the the idea of putting the whole raid in disguise to see if disguise works too...... probably won't though!

General Help with "Nameplates Modifier"

Dragaan — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:59:54 GMT

Okay... I've been searching for whatever mod the warlock in cuties only uses for nameplates in his videos for a while now. I believe I even posted in the addon ID thread, but no one could really help (a few people said aloft, but that's not it). Now, Rasia (the lock) has his/her UI available for download on the guild's website. I have never copied an entire UI or even specific settings for an individual addon from someone else before. Searching through the addon folder, the only "addon" that I can find which could possibly be what I'm looking for is called "Nameplates Modifier". I copied the folder into my own addons folder, but it doesn't seem to do anything. It's listed as an addon at the addon selection screen, but there seems to be no UI or anything like that in-game. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong or I'm just being really stupid (it's really late/early atm) but I just can't figure this out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Out of the hundreds of wow videos I've watched, I really like this nameplate setup the best and would love to copy it. Thanks.

Sorry for the the wallotext.

Here is a link to a recent video in case you're wondering what the nameplates look like:

Warrior Gear check and tips.

Haio — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:46:34 GMT

Hey everyone on Tankspot.

Just thought it was about time to post my "normal" boss tanking gear.

The World of Warcraft Armory
This is the set i use 95% of the time MT'ing bosses etc, what i was interested in is. What people think should i get the 9.3 Chest (to keep 4 set) and take the Ony 25 helm or just leave the 4 set out.

I think my block etc is a little low but i value Hit and Expertise levels more than it right now.
I have the cape from 25 ToC second boss also but am using "The Cape of the Makers" to keep my hit up around 180.

So just asking for peoples veaws and what they think i should aim for in a total stats over look in Dodge, Parry, Hit etc etc.

Thank you in advance for any helpfull comments :).