Source: Satrina
Class Abilities and Talents in Detail
(A) Warrior
Most warrior abilities add a fixed amount of threat when they land successfully. The following table gives the basic innate threat values (before the modifiers from stance) and does not include the damage done by the abilities. We call this the innate threat value, since you would get this amount of threat even if the attack hit for zero damage, and indeed some of these abilities do not deal damage at all. Values are given only for the highest ranks.
Battle Shout ________________________ 68 (Split)
Cleave ______________________________ 130 (Split)
Commanding Shout ____________________ 68 (Split)
Concussion Blow _____________________ 0
Demoralising Shout __________________ 56 (Split)
Devastate ___________________________ 109/119/134/148/162/176 (see below)
Disarm_______________________________ 104
Execute _____________________________ 125% Damage (Unaffected by Stance Multiplier)
Hamstring ___________________________ 181
Heroic Strike _______________________ 196
Mocking Blow ________________________ 290
Piercing Howl _______________________ 0
Revenge _____________________________ 200
Shield Slam _________________________ 307
Spell Reflect _______________________ 100% Damage
Sunder Armor ________________________ 301
Thunderclap _________________________ 175% Damage
Whirlwind ___________________________ 100% Damage (Unaffected by Stance Multiplier) If the ability deals damage, the threat generated is: (innate threat + damage dealt) * stance modifier * buff modifiers
If the ability deals no damage, the threat generated is: innate threat * stance modifier * buff modifiers
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I'm new to tanking. Im thinking about going partial into defensive stance for a PvP template but will be doing some lower end lvl 70 instances(non heroic at first at-least) and I am wondering about a few things I had read.
Ok so it says thunderclap is 175% of dmg. If you have +3 thunderclap that gives 100% dmg bonus. So TC rank 7 = 123 dmg. Thats 246 with Imp TC. So in your table it says TC = 175% of the dmg dealt. That makes 246dmg = 430.5.
NOW MY question is this. Since you said this:
and does not include the damage done by the abilities.
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Does that mean that TC gets the damage it doex 2x?
Because in your formula of: (innate threat + damage dealt) * stance modifier * buff modifier that makes(430.5(innate) + (430.5(dmg dealt)) * 1.30(defensive stance) * 1(because if you put "0" it would all come out 0
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so that makes TC do 861 X 1.30 = 1119.3 thrat to ALL targets it hits(as its not a "split" ability). And would be "spammable" with only a 4 second cooldown. Yes its 5 more range than sunder, but, sunder is producing like 301 x 1.30 = 391.3(wowhead doesnt show sundering doing additional damage).
So am I incorrect in the assumption that the "damage dealt" and "innate threat" are separate thus stack together, or, since all of TC's threat IS its damage, you would only have (damage dealt * 1.75) * stance modifier?
