[Drahk]

Hi. I'm new to posting here but have been lurking for a while. Anyways I was wondering if theres anything similar to Shaman: Enhancement - Elitist Jerks out there for fury warriors to be able to plug into a Gear system for in game? I know that Enhancement shamman's and Fury warriors are very close in needs So maybe that just needs a little adjustment? Thanks for your time.

(sorry about that response Cyderhelm I thought I was on the actual post of the fury guide >.<)

[Corbusier]

The closest thing I can think of is Pawn, and you have to set your own stat values.

[Drahk]

Actually I use pawn I'm just not sure what to set the values at and that is what I was looking for was an idea of where to set the values so I can judge gear on the fly when I'm raiding or doing heroics ect. I mean.. I know what I think would be an upgrade for gear wise but sometimes its a close call.

[Corbusier]

I'm hesitant to give solid numbers as far as stats go because they change depending on your current gear and the target's armor values, as well as your group makeup. Search the WoW warrior forum for posts by Nomepunter, he posted a fairly accurate SEP ranking.

[Drahk]

Thanks

[skreed]

Just needed to post my appreciation. I got my first crack at Kara this week (career Prot Warrior respeccing to Fury for the Raid). Timing was perfect in that it coincided with this updated guide.

I read it, tweaked my gear accordingly, re-read it, figured out my ability rotation, read it again, debated some of the negotiable talents with my tank and raid leader... and (after calling a last minute audible and buying some Crit gems to slot instead of the Hit gems I was planning on going with just as the summon to the meeting stone came through) hit the ground running.

I had the expected growing pains and learning curve you'd expect when you cut your Fury teeth in raid content youve never seen before. But, by the end of the night things started to click... and I somehow, when the dust cleared (though the numbers were nothing to brag about and I'm still scratching my head as to how this happened) topped the DPS board by a slim margin.

Many thanks to TS and Corbusier for the excellent guide.

[BoomBeef]

I'm not sure who to contact so I will just mention it here. Probably Ciderhelm? (Who is understandably busy as heck I'm guessing). This page needs to be updated as well on the site:
TankSpot - Fury & Arms DPS Resources

Delete this post of course; it is just serve as a reminder. I'm pointing people to this post as "The Fury Bible" now.

[Heinrich]

Excellent thread supplies a lot of great information but I have a few questions and concerned that cannot really be answered by the guide alone

-Firstly I really dont know what to chose in the way of trinket setups, im currently using shard+bloodlust broach, I only have 30 percent crit with this combo and I was wondering wether or not I should go for shard/rage of the unrav or bloodlust broach/rage of the unrav, I get nearly 32 crit with these setups but is this worth the expertise loss as I know its a great stat but I just never seem to crit enough with 30 percent ;x

-Secondly, I seem to do absolutely pitiful dps in 5 mans, with my gear I was expecting at least 800+, I came out of magisters terrace at an overall 668...I was following the rotation and trying to imporvise to maximise my damage in certain situations but I dunno, I really cant explain that one. Also soloing, I always have recount up and the numbers are quite depressing, is this normal part and parcel of being a fury warrior?

Thanks for the guide and any input on my concerns.

Armory link-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Heinrich

Apologies if it shows arms gear, not much I can do there, logged out in fury gear but no chance as of typing

[Corbusier]

Source: Heinrich Excellent thread supplies a lot of great information but I have a few questions and concerned that cannot really be answered by the guide alone -Firstly I really dont know what to chose in the way of trinket setups, im currently using shard+bloodlust broach, I only have 30 percent crit with this combo and I was wondering wether or not I should go for shard/rage of the unrav or bloodlust broach/rage of the unrav, I get nearly 32 crit with these setups but is this worth the expertise loss as I know its a great stat but I just never seem to crit enough with 30 percent ;x -Secondly, I seem to do absolutely pitiful dps in 5 mans, with my gear I was expecting at least 800+, I came out of magisters terrace at an overall 668...I was following the rotation and trying to imporvise to maximise my damage in certain situations but I dunno, I really cant explain that one. Also soloing, I always have recount up and the numbers are quite depressing, is this normal part and parcel of being a fury warrior? Thanks for the guide and any input on my concerns. Armory link-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Heinrich Apologies if it shows arms gear, not much I can do there, logged out in fury gear but no chance as of typing

Thanks for your response, but questions like this are best addressed the the Armory Ratings Subforum: Armory Ratings & Suggestions - TankSpot

But of the trinkets you mentioned, Shard & Bloodlust Brooch is your best combo.

[Heinrich]

Thanks realised my mistake shortly afterwards but was too happy to be allowed back as fury!

The trinket setup was the main concern, so thanks again

[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Corbusier But of the trinkets you mentioned, Shard & Bloodlust Brooch is your best combo.

EJ Spreadsheet shows Shard with about 38% uptime (172 hit rating). Don't even think about not using it

[Kraygor]

Corb, your clever use of multiple posts to divide up your guide allows you to link each section in your Table of Contents! You've already done part of it, but you'll have to shift some sections down into the reserved posts.

Source: Corbusier Table Of Contents 1. Talents 2. Stats 3. Attack Table - Two Roll System for Specials? 4. Offhands - Priorities - Whirlwind damage - Flurry & Synced Speed "Extra Attacks" - The Effects of Sharpening Stones 5. Skill Rotation 6. Execute Range 7. Enchants, Gear & Gemming - Choosing Items 8. Haste, PPM, Rage & You - Haste's effects on PPM enchants - Haste & Rage Generation 9. Best Practices - Consumables - Cooldown Synergy - Raid Preparation - Awareness & Multi-Target Attacks - Standing Behind the Boss - Buffs/Debuffs - Survival

[Tavy]

Seconds into fight: 0: BT 1.5: WW 3: Global cool down free 6: BT 7.5: Global cool down free 10.5: WW 12: BT 13.5: Global cool down free 15: Global cool down free 18: BT 19.5: WW

Just for clearification, the last BT/WW there is the start of the next rotation, not the end of the rotation, correct?

[Corbusier]

Source: Kraygor Corb, your clever use of multiple posts to divide up your guide allows you to link each section in your Table of Contents! You've already done part of it, but you'll have to shift some sections down into the reserved posts.

Never thought of that, thanks!

Just for clearification, the last BT/WW there is the start of the next rotation, not the end of the rotation, correct?

Yep.

[Dugarax]

I don't know if it is still the case, but if I recall good, Windfury has no effect on the offhand weapon, therefore allowing to apply a Weight/Sharpening stone on you offhand for a slight dps increase.

It might not be the case anymore, explaining why it would not be in your guide. But if it still works it would be nice to see that information appear somewhere in the guide imo.

Regards,

Dugarax

[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Dugarax I don't know if it is still the case, but if I recall good, Windfury has no effect on the offhand weapon, therefore allowing to apply a Weight/Sharpening stone on you offhand for a slight dps increase. It might not be the case anymore, explaining why it would not be in your guide. But if it still works it would be nice to see that information appear somewhere in the guide imo. Regards, Dugarax

It's only when stones are applied to both weapons that WF does not work. A stone on your MH will proc WF, so yeah, use 'em.

EDITED

[Dugarax]

Source: GarrettJaxx It's only when stones are applied to both weapons that WF does not work. A stone on either MH or OH (but not both) will still proc WF, so yeah, use 'em.

thanks for your answer.

Yeah I was pointing out that this information is not in the guide, it would be nice to include it I think. I'm not saying that the guide is bad in any way though. It's a really nice guide by the way Corbusier.

I think though, that if you put a stone on your MH, windfury won't work since it seems that the buff only applies to your main hand.
Windfury Totem - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft

[GarrettJaxx]

Source: Dugarax thanks for your answer. Yeah I was pointing out this information is not in the guide, it would be nice to include it I think. I'm not saying that the guide is bad in any way though. It's a really nice guide by the way Corbusier. I think though, that if you put a stone on your MH, windfury won't work since it seems that the buff only applies to your main hand. Windfury Totem - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft

True dat! Edited above thanks!

[Drahk]

Updated weapons?

The recent changes to Crafted Epic weapons like Dragonstrike has made it possible to Dual weild these. My current available weapons are Dragonstrike and the Badge gear Fist weapons and anything from SSC/TK (minus Vashj/Kael) I've been considering doing the Dual weild Dragonsstrike + dual Mongoose but Im just really uncertain as what would be better for me in the long run. While the dps from the Badge Fist weapons is better I dont have the badges at the moment. But if I want to make another Dragonstrike I'll have to spend a couple badges that I have to get the mats. Help? Thanks.

[Corbusier]

Source: Drahk Updated weapons? The recent changes to Crafted Epic weapons like Dragonstrike has made it possible to Dual weild these. My current available weapons are Dragonstrike and the Badge gear Fist weapons and anything from SSC/TK (minus Vashj/Kael) I've been considering doing the Dual weild Dragonsstrike + dual Mongoose but Im just really uncertain as what would be better for me in the long run. While the dps from the Badge Fist weapons is better I dont have the badges at the moment. But if I want to make another Dragonstrike I'll have to spend a couple badges that I have to get the mats. Help? Thanks.

DS or badge MH fist w/exectutioner
badge OH fist w/ mongoose

DS makes a terrible offhand