What drives your guild? What drives you?
I've often said that I play this game for the people. It always comes up though when we are talking about progression and loot though.
And I've come to realize that's because that's all their is to the game.
1. People
- who you play with
2. Progression
- the content you get to see
3. Loot
- how you get to develop your character
Every individual has values as to how much each of those 3 things matters to them. Every guild has values they associate with each of those 3 things too. It cannot be downplayed how important it is to be consistent with those 3. It's why you should never lie to people you recruit or make empty promises. It's why you shouldn't ever join a guild when you know they can't fill your needs in those 3 areas.
Now of those 3 which is the most powerful driving force?
None of them.
1. The right people can keep a person with all the gear they need in a slow progressing guild.
2. Fast progression can keep a person who hates the people he plays with and lacks gear in a guild.
3. Constantly getting new gear can keep a person who hates the people they play with even if the guild progresses slow.
They all matter.
And how much they matter to you and me is always changing. We as individuals will fluctuate in our needs from this game. Guilds because they are often based on rules fluctuate less and rightly so. If the needs of individuals are constantly affecting the values of the guild then what results is a volatile guild. (or what I like to call... a casual guild
)
So what's my point here?
My point is to remember that everyone is affected by those 3 factors even you whether you like it or not. As much as I love to say it and try to convince myself that it's all about the people, it's not. It's true that the majority of my enjoyment comes from the people I play with, but I also cannot deny that I'd be hard pressed to keep playing this game if a year from now my character literally hadn't changed and the guild I was with hadn't moved an inch.
How do you value the 3 factors?
How does your guild?
And I've come to realize that's because that's all their is to the game.
1. People
- who you play with
2. Progression
- the content you get to see
3. Loot
- how you get to develop your character
Every individual has values as to how much each of those 3 things matters to them. Every guild has values they associate with each of those 3 things too. It cannot be downplayed how important it is to be consistent with those 3. It's why you should never lie to people you recruit or make empty promises. It's why you shouldn't ever join a guild when you know they can't fill your needs in those 3 areas.
Now of those 3 which is the most powerful driving force?
None of them.
1. The right people can keep a person with all the gear they need in a slow progressing guild.
2. Fast progression can keep a person who hates the people he plays with and lacks gear in a guild.
3. Constantly getting new gear can keep a person who hates the people they play with even if the guild progresses slow.
They all matter.
And how much they matter to you and me is always changing. We as individuals will fluctuate in our needs from this game. Guilds because they are often based on rules fluctuate less and rightly so. If the needs of individuals are constantly affecting the values of the guild then what results is a volatile guild. (or what I like to call... a casual guild
)So what's my point here?
My point is to remember that everyone is affected by those 3 factors even you whether you like it or not. As much as I love to say it and try to convince myself that it's all about the people, it's not. It's true that the majority of my enjoyment comes from the people I play with, but I also cannot deny that I'd be hard pressed to keep playing this game if a year from now my character literally hadn't changed and the guild I was with hadn't moved an inch.
How do you value the 3 factors?
How does your guild?
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Comments
 | So what would you do if a guild is pretty much stuck with progression (Kara on clear, and farming it for alts, no focus what so ever on part of the main people to keep moving forward)? Do you leave and move on, despite the fact that you have bonded with pretty much everyone on the guild? Do you try to fix things inside the guild itself and try to inspire people to keep progressing? or do you just leave things be and when the guild breaks, you move on to other things? That's the "crossroad" i'm in right now... any tips, advices or whatever? :P |
Posted 11-25-2007 at 07:08 PM by Ukyo  |
| |  If you can consistently clear Kara, I'd suggest heading into ZA. Also, if your numbers are low you should focus on recruitment so that 25 mans become an option. If there is no desire to do 25 mans, then find a guild you can essentially ally with to do 25 mans with them on a regular basis. How old is the guild you are in? How long have you been in it? What is your rank within it? Those 3 questions might allow me to give you some more insight as to what your options are. |
| Posted 11-26-2007 at 01:30 PM by veneretio |
| | I'm motivated by having a really good run, which goes well and in which I perform well, and everyone is appreciated for doing their good things (had one just now in MgT so I'm happy). 1. Skilful and friendly people can definitely give you a good play experience. 2. I don't really understand hardcore progression. I't mainly a form of punishment through consumables, repeated wipes, and generally suffering to push through content you aren't geared for. I get much more satisfaction from a challenging yet within range run, done very well. But I understand that the vast majority of raiders differs. 3. Gear is good to give you a set of goals that you achieve, and to let you progress in relative comfort. |
| Posted 08-25-2008 at 08:39 PM by Machus |
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