Yay, tanking, and boooo to Archimonde
Posted 08-08-2008 at 02:04 PM by Thist
I am in a great new guild and they even let me tank stuff despite having at least 3 tanks (2 warriors and a pally) that outgear me.
So in case you were wondering, you are fine in your badge, ZA and ssc/tk (no kael/vashj loot) for all bosses in Hyjal...EXCEPT Archimonde. You are fine for first 3 of BT too, will let you know about the rest later.
You want at least 20k health and some decent avoidance for Archimonde, unless you add in a couple extra healers or something.
In my best combo of stamina and avoidance gear (with all consumables) I had 17.5k health, the usual MT has 23k and 5% more everything. He tanked on the last (successful) attempt, and I felt a bit bad about the 2 wipes to my sudden deaths.
Things you definitely want to know about Archimonde:
- you know how you often run in through the boss, get into position, grab some nice rage and start generating threat? try that on Archimonde and you will probably die suddenly like I did (it was hilarious apparently). You should thunderclap and shield block as you run in, and be very very careful he doesn't get you from behind. Also run really slowly so you don't leave the healers behind. Shield rune and ironshield pot is also useful, else squishsquish!
- the raid wants him at a certain very specific spot, it's kinda in the middle of the windy path thing below the stumps (you'll know what I mean), its not like other bosses where anywhere close is ok - they all have their favourite/best spots and set groups and are rattled if your positioning is off
- the fear timer is like the one for nightbane, it tells you when he can fear, except it has a very very short cast time, so once he can fear (watch deadly timer) you should save your global cooldown and only heroic strike and shield block until the fear comes, I'm undead so have extra anti-fear, but still managed to mess this up horribly twice (wotf is also on global cooldown)
- don't keep moving out the fire (it looks nearer than it is usually), if you get doomfire and are in the middle of it then call out that you are backing up/sideways a bit, and do it slowly; try to not move around fear time because some of the healers will probably be feared or healing people feared into fire
I have it down now, but I'm not tanking Archimonde again until I have some more health, its just not practical for the raid.
My new guild is very cool and raids at good times for me, so I am having a lot more fun now, more silly tanking tips to follow :-)
So in case you were wondering, you are fine in your badge, ZA and ssc/tk (no kael/vashj loot) for all bosses in Hyjal...EXCEPT Archimonde. You are fine for first 3 of BT too, will let you know about the rest later.
You want at least 20k health and some decent avoidance for Archimonde, unless you add in a couple extra healers or something.
In my best combo of stamina and avoidance gear (with all consumables) I had 17.5k health, the usual MT has 23k and 5% more everything. He tanked on the last (successful) attempt, and I felt a bit bad about the 2 wipes to my sudden deaths.
Things you definitely want to know about Archimonde:
- you know how you often run in through the boss, get into position, grab some nice rage and start generating threat? try that on Archimonde and you will probably die suddenly like I did (it was hilarious apparently). You should thunderclap and shield block as you run in, and be very very careful he doesn't get you from behind. Also run really slowly so you don't leave the healers behind. Shield rune and ironshield pot is also useful, else squishsquish!
- the raid wants him at a certain very specific spot, it's kinda in the middle of the windy path thing below the stumps (you'll know what I mean), its not like other bosses where anywhere close is ok - they all have their favourite/best spots and set groups and are rattled if your positioning is off
- the fear timer is like the one for nightbane, it tells you when he can fear, except it has a very very short cast time, so once he can fear (watch deadly timer) you should save your global cooldown and only heroic strike and shield block until the fear comes, I'm undead so have extra anti-fear, but still managed to mess this up horribly twice (wotf is also on global cooldown)
- don't keep moving out the fire (it looks nearer than it is usually), if you get doomfire and are in the middle of it then call out that you are backing up/sideways a bit, and do it slowly; try to not move around fear time because some of the healers will probably be feared or healing people feared into fire
I have it down now, but I'm not tanking Archimonde again until I have some more health, its just not practical for the raid.
My new guild is very cool and raids at good times for me, so I am having a lot more fun now, more silly tanking tips to follow :-)
Total Comments 3
Comments
| | Archimonde I have to say is the first fight I've ran into that I actually felt like I had to try. He's frustrating at first, but a welcomed challenged once you've killed him a handful of times. |
Posted 08-08-2008 at 04:56 PM by veneretio |
| | Just curious, do you socket all your gear with epic gems? Because I'm in the same gear as you, ZA/badge/T5, and I sit on 22k hp with 30% dodge raid buffed. Just saying don't put your gear down, Archi is definitely tanking without MH/BT drops. ![]() |
Posted 08-09-2008 at 12:21 PM by Elyvern |
| | Heh, thats exactly what I thought may be the problem - I was waiting until t6 for socketing 15 stamina. I recently spent my badge stash on the 2 great badge one-handers so I could dps better as prot, but now I am saving them up for epic gem socketing and I am at 3/11 so far. I am sure Archimonde is possible in my current gear if there were more healers and a full raid - we were at 22/23 of 25 for most of the raid, because they usually do it fine with that many - just didn't work replacing usual 23k 30% dodge mt with a Thist under those cicrumstances. The point is kinda that you can slot into most boss fights easily, but not Archimonde cos he is an evil bastard. ;-) |
Posted 08-09-2008 at 05:38 PM by Thist |
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