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Posted 01-20-2009 at 06:25 PM by PvtCaboose

Having posted a bit on tankspot but nothing major I've learned alot in what goes into tanking. That being said I find it ... lets say difficult to look at the 10 people who clearly haven't looked up anything about their class, haven't taken any advice I've given (an officer of my guild) or anyone else for that matter and just handing them loot. It pisses me off that people think that you show up for raid and you get loot. That is not how it goes.
We dont use DKP its for the most part a "free roll" system with tanking gear (tier peices) going to tanks first then everyone else. I literally tell them not to give people loot because they aren't fulfiling their role to the guild - Pallies push your heal key once in a while to make it look like you've healed... But when our pally tank out heals them there has to be things done.
But right now the biggest problem we have is people dont like to show up. We are a raiding guild we raid five days (nothing drastic) but it takes us those 5 days to clear all the current content. We should be raiding 3 days tops. One day for Naxx. One day for OS 3D. One day for Maly 5min achivement. But no. We have useless wipes in which we get people dying to shocks on thaddius, running though grobulus posion novas (they are green look at the ground!) Sapharion has a blizzard and is a dragon... dont stand behind him or infront... Why do our healers want to be beside the tank to heal?! KT we get melee Ice Blocking the main tank. On the naxx front though I've seen an improvment by most people who were messing up in the beginning and I'm hoping for full clear this reset this week. maybe the immortal achivement? Doubtful.. But baby steps. Rome wasnt built in a day.

Malygos was another one of those "Teron Gorefiend" fights where you had to depend on people to do their job properly. Our first kill was messy about 10 people survived and we were 10 seconds into his enrage when he died. People died to the static shock, no one knew how to stand on the triangle it was a learning curve to say the least. We've come along way on that fight too - Our people are moving with the group and we are getting closer to getting the 5 min achviemnt.

OS is by far the worst though. We have people who CONSTANTLY get hit by that big orange wall of fire... MOVE! Oh, and void zones? Look around! I have just recently moved from the easy job of tanking sath to picking up adds one of the drakes... Its a big difference on the front of the commotion and stuff but I didnt get hit by flame wall or void zones once. There is not reason for it IMO. We've been doing 2D for the last two weeks and starting 3D next week - I hope it all goes well - Last time we went in with 2D no one died so thats a positive off the top. The new tank since I moved to add control did really well its a DK and he for his first time tanking it got hit by flame wall twice. It was hard to judge when I first did it too. Not many people got hit by flame walls and our dps was in over drive burning down tenebron way faster than usual. Usually we have Vesperon down before tenebron dies - we killed him in 45-1 min. I was throughly impressed.
I may bitch about my guild and some people who need to be more observant but overall I like the guild I'm in they do what needs to be done with a few people who are a little slower on the uptake. But all in all they are a great group of people a little too loot oriented but thats what your going to get anywhere... I hope.

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  1. Old Comment
    Man you sound to me to be a pretty down to earth officer/raid leader. Personally as a MT/OT(Depending on the fight) and an officer in my guild sometimes it takes a hard knock on wood(ie their head) to get ppl to shape up and listen. Personally what me and my GL do is have everyone do mandatory homework on all boss fights. We then right before fights do coordination practice(like on Thaddius[we put a light on the ground and make sure people go to the right when they have their charge changed and if someone screws up we calmly say "So-and-So you just wiped the raid GG" and we try again. Also be looking for other ppl to replace people and basically tell the people that arent pulling their weight or taking advice that they will lose their spot to this new person if they dont get on the ball. Good luck with your guild and GL in new content.
    Posted 01-20-2009 at 07:49 PM by Tassadar Tassadar is offline
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    I say; "who wants to put their hands up for that one?"

    I feel it tends to get people more committed, blaming them makes them grumpy (whether they deserve it or not).
    Posted 01-21-2009 at 03:08 AM by Bosk Bosk is offline
 

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