Potential Frost Mage and Deathknight Synergy
Posted 07-14-2008 at 09:57 AM by Muggs
Ok, so, this is what I initially wanted to talk about in my first blog today, but I felt it deserved it's own blog and that way I can continue my series with other classes.
The big point of this: Frost Mage + Death Knight = Frost Mage Viability via Synergy
Ok, let's look at the big ones, first of all, they share a similar talent: Frostbite - Frost spells have a 15% chance to freeze the target. Both classes are adept at CC, movement impairing, and rooting (woot).
Well, how do mages fit in there? Let's look at old school skills first:
Ice Shards - Crits deal double damage, nuff said.
Shatter - Increases critical strike chance against frozen targets by 50% (talent). before death knights, the only class that could freeze a target was a frost mage.
Ice Lance - Deals triple damage to frozen targets. Rank 3 (lvl 78) is 221-255 damage or 663-766 to a frozen target. Not bad, I crit for 2.2k now, this should up it a lot in Wrath.
Winter's Chill - Increases frost crit strike chance by 2%, stacks 5 times for +10% crit total.
Now, how would these old school talents work with a death knight... humm
Frost Strike - 10% chance to freeze a target, not bad, if this proc as you get an frost bolt off, it's big damage from shatter/shards combo.
Frozen Rune Weapon - Applies a debuff increasing frost damage by 1%, stacks 5x. not bad, +5% damage to everything that will most likely stack with curse of the elements.
Chains of Ice - Freezes target in place at range for 3 seconds. A good arena team will coordinate a chaining and a frost bolt/ice lance combo, this will be deadly in the hands of a good arena team
Hungering Cold (51 pt talent)- Leeches heat from the ground and freezes everything in place. Tab-Ice Lance ftw? I think so.
These combos look pretty cool. AoE/Ranged freeze + Ice lance/Frost bolts. Mages boosting DK crit while DK boosts raw damage. It looks like a great synergy... not to mention the amount of freezing will mean lots of lucky shatter procs for big crits for the mages off both character attacks. Now, one point I haven't touched on: Raid bosses can't be rooted. /facepalm right? Wrong because of this:
Winter's Grasp: Target is considered frozen. Now, I don't know what this means, but it potentially means that raid bosses will have a chance to be susceptible to shatter procs from ice mages. Only time will tell on this.
Since we're talking about Wrath end game, Hunger Cold + the new Deep Freeze (AoE stun on frozen targets) that is the frost mage 51 talent.. /evil laughter Let's hope the enemy in 5's stands close together...
The big point of this: Frost Mage + Death Knight = Frost Mage Viability via Synergy
Ok, let's look at the big ones, first of all, they share a similar talent: Frostbite - Frost spells have a 15% chance to freeze the target. Both classes are adept at CC, movement impairing, and rooting (woot).
Well, how do mages fit in there? Let's look at old school skills first:
Ice Shards - Crits deal double damage, nuff said.
Shatter - Increases critical strike chance against frozen targets by 50% (talent). before death knights, the only class that could freeze a target was a frost mage.
Ice Lance - Deals triple damage to frozen targets. Rank 3 (lvl 78) is 221-255 damage or 663-766 to a frozen target. Not bad, I crit for 2.2k now, this should up it a lot in Wrath.
Winter's Chill - Increases frost crit strike chance by 2%, stacks 5 times for +10% crit total.
Now, how would these old school talents work with a death knight... humm
Frost Strike - 10% chance to freeze a target, not bad, if this proc as you get an frost bolt off, it's big damage from shatter/shards combo.
Frozen Rune Weapon - Applies a debuff increasing frost damage by 1%, stacks 5x. not bad, +5% damage to everything that will most likely stack with curse of the elements.
Chains of Ice - Freezes target in place at range for 3 seconds. A good arena team will coordinate a chaining and a frost bolt/ice lance combo, this will be deadly in the hands of a good arena team
Hungering Cold (51 pt talent)- Leeches heat from the ground and freezes everything in place. Tab-Ice Lance ftw? I think so.
These combos look pretty cool. AoE/Ranged freeze + Ice lance/Frost bolts. Mages boosting DK crit while DK boosts raw damage. It looks like a great synergy... not to mention the amount of freezing will mean lots of lucky shatter procs for big crits for the mages off both character attacks. Now, one point I haven't touched on: Raid bosses can't be rooted. /facepalm right? Wrong because of this:
Winter's Grasp: Target is considered frozen. Now, I don't know what this means, but it potentially means that raid bosses will have a chance to be susceptible to shatter procs from ice mages. Only time will tell on this.
Since we're talking about Wrath end game, Hunger Cold + the new Deep Freeze (AoE stun on frozen targets) that is the frost mage 51 talent.. /evil laughter Let's hope the enemy in 5's stands close together...

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Hrm...That is interesting, though I would hope it is more a case providing some powerful buffs as opposed to actually making frost mages viable. (IE, I hope they are viable on thier own)
Such synergy exists with shadow priests + Warlocks and from warlocks to mages with CoElements (though this is being altered in the xpac, no?)
Neat stuff. A DK/Frostmage could be a formidable PvP tandem, farming party, etc. If I rolled a DK and my wife took her mage frost.....bah, never happen. She likes blowing shit up too much. :PPosted 07-14-2008 at 10:13 AM by Horacio
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Curse of Elements is changing in 2.4.3 to work on everything. In the end of Wrath, a boss could be debuffed (magically)
+5% spell damage from Misery
+15% fire damage from Imp Scorch
+10% shadow damage from from Shadow Weaving
+13% magical damage from Curse of Elements
+5% frost damage from Frost Weapon
+10% frost critical strike from Winters Chill
For a grand total of:
+23% Frost Damage/+10% frost critical strike (compared to only +18% frost Mages get now with misery + CoE)
+28% Shadow Damage
+33% Fire DamagePosted 07-14-2008 at 11:15 AM by Muggs












