Why 33/28/0 > 8/7/46...
Posted 02-04-2008 at 08:14 AM by klor
This weekend was quite the eventful one for me. On Friday night I had decided I was not going to spend much time on WoW and actually go out to enjoy RL for once...yeah that was an Epic fail on my behalf. I spent most of friday night just grinding honor and having fun on WoW...which is typical. On Saturday, I spent the first half with getting my pvp out of the way. Did a 5v5 arena team that was a complete flop...which is particularly the reason I stay in 3v3s..and did a few more BGs, but quickly got burnt out on that.
So I then got a whisper to tank Mag... I have been trying to get a Mag group together for quite some time as I want my title. It wasn't until AFTER i spec'd prot, and offered to go that they told me "Oh sorry, a mag pug is out of the question...We're doing Gruul's lair." I was a bit disgruntled at this, but meh...It was a chance for me to get back into a 25man raid. I ended up main tanking both Gruul and High King, but the group split up after the second wipe on Gruul. (Wowowow for fun memories of people nuking each other in Shatters.) It didn't help that the OT had less hp Buffed than I did unbuffed. By growth 10 the hateful strike was one shotting him.
After wiping in there a few times I found myself back in Shat where someone on trade was asking for a well geared OT for ZA. Knowing that I probably would not have a chance to run it with Girlie's guild before the reset, I offered to go. I did not realize until after I offered to go that the people that made up much of the group were from the very guild that acted like complete jackasses to me. Fortunately enough, these guys were not the ones that had acted that way and they were a bit weary at first about a tier4 warrior...but we ended up clearing 2 of the timed events, would have had the third if we had not stopped for looting the chests and had not died once to dragonhawk trash. We were 2 minutes off on the timer. We full cleared ZA in just over 2 hours...which really made me happy as its been a while since I was able to see Zul'jin dead. I even walked away with two upgrades. One tanking (the shoulders) and one dps (the chest) and made a few good friends along the way.
After that was said and done, I got one last whisper...this time from some random person asking me if I wanted to tank Karazhan. Since it was the first time in a week that I had even been spec'd prot...I figured, Sure what the hell... and went for it. Little to my knowledge...it was YET again another group of the very people that were complete jackasses to me on that guild app...the ones that said my gear was terrible and that I did not deserve to be in their ranks. I made sure to make him bite his tongue as I was pushing out 1200-1400 tps in Karazhan. He kept making small remarks the rest of the night, but he kept quiet for the most part. We ended up clearing through chess and stopped at 5am. I was dead tired...so I went, sold the crap in my inventory and crashed.
Sunday rolls around and I'm extremely excited to go gem and enchant my new shoulders. First thing I do is run to the bank to see how many holy dust I have... and look for my shoulders... They were no where to be found. It took me two hours to finally get ahold of this sweet GM who joked with me a bit and finally told me that she had done some research and I had vendored them many hours before. Thats what I get for selling my garbage after Karazhan at 5am...never again. When all was said and done, she bid me farewell and told me "May all your hits be crits" Me being the smartellic that I am quickly responded "Nooo....I'm a tank. Me taking crit hits are bad..." Her response to this was "I was talking about your hits. I hope you don't get too hard" Fun typoes always are worth the laugh
I didn't give her any grief over it, just laughed, Screen shotted, and went on my way.
My guildies finally talked me into tanking SV for them after I had finished running Mech with another guild who did nothing the whole time but try to recruit me because their MTs had bailed on them. This is usually a sign no? Anyway, the SV run. After finally getting everyone there and ready, I notice the mage who is a pug and a friend of a guildie is in the guild which has previously caused problems with me. <ROFLCOPTERS> had previously ninja'd my heroic mech save for the day as well as mouthed the entire guild outside of ZA as their leader sat there...I do not like this guild, and mentioned it in say. I should have left right then...but no, I am a nice person that gave the guy a chance....big mistake. We start pulling, first pull...the priest DCs. I manage to tank two heroic elites by myself, in my full threat gear, using concussion blow, healthstones health pots and bandages just to have the priest log back in after the fight. Again..should have been a sign. Next few pulls go fine, then the mage decides to run up and agro the mobs by the first big door. He uses Sheep to pull apparently because I thunderclapped as soon as i saw them move his way and put them both on me. His comment "Thunderclap breaks sheep." I'm thinking to myself now...Ok, I know how to tank. I've done it tons of times...so i tell him "Its the only way I have to pick up mobs when you pull initial agro with a CC skill." His comment to me "Use Demo shout..." I about died right there. Was this guy truly trying to tell me how to tank when I just saved him a repair bill? He sure enough was. We continued the instance a bit more, I had broken sheep once or twice because he decided to sheep right on top of me in a group of four mobs. Sheep is easy to replace, and its not like i did it continually..I usually tried to time it to hit it before he sheeped them because he was moving a bit slow...but I did mistime it a few times. Again, the comment came out after I had said something "says the warrior who doesn't use demo shout to pick up threat". That right then was when I just blew up on him. I can take constructive criticism. I know I am not right all the time....and I always love to hear tips and such on things I do not know, but when a DPS tries to tell me how to tank when they cannot even focus fire the right marked mob? Yeah, I lose my nerve especially on a pug. I mean correct me if I am wrong, but not once have I ever seen ANYONE designate circle as the first target when there is a skull and an X marked as well? I may have went a little overboard on the guy, but I had already had a rough day and the last thing I wanted to deal with was some pug trying to tell me that Demo shout pushes out a good deal of threat for picking up multiple mobs so he doesnt have to reapply sheep simply because he sheeped it under my feet. Not once did anyone die because they pulled agro off of me...and even with 2 warlocks we only used the sheep as the only CC. I think I did pretty well even with having to avoid breaking the sheep at my feet every pull. With that said and done, i left that group after dying three times on the last boss because they refused to focus fire the tanks....THREE TIMES... and i died because i was taking .5 second swing timer 6700 hits...the priest could not keep up and the dps was blaming him for it and almost tried to blame me...I thwarted that idea fast. We finally got him down...I had to yell at them in vent because it was a bit over done...three times i tell them to dps the tanks, three times they refuse to do so quickly and worry too much about dps on the boss and I have to pay 5g per time.
After the run was over, i find myself earning a 26g repair bill for 3 deaths...lovely.
That is why 33/28/0 > 8/7/46. Running heroics only allows me to gain a repair bill because people tend to always mess up and i need nothing from them. Its human nature...but atleast a mess up in a BG or an arena does not cost me gold..it only costs me time....and I have alot more time than I do gold.
So I then got a whisper to tank Mag... I have been trying to get a Mag group together for quite some time as I want my title. It wasn't until AFTER i spec'd prot, and offered to go that they told me "Oh sorry, a mag pug is out of the question...We're doing Gruul's lair." I was a bit disgruntled at this, but meh...It was a chance for me to get back into a 25man raid. I ended up main tanking both Gruul and High King, but the group split up after the second wipe on Gruul. (Wowowow for fun memories of people nuking each other in Shatters.) It didn't help that the OT had less hp Buffed than I did unbuffed. By growth 10 the hateful strike was one shotting him.
After wiping in there a few times I found myself back in Shat where someone on trade was asking for a well geared OT for ZA. Knowing that I probably would not have a chance to run it with Girlie's guild before the reset, I offered to go. I did not realize until after I offered to go that the people that made up much of the group were from the very guild that acted like complete jackasses to me. Fortunately enough, these guys were not the ones that had acted that way and they were a bit weary at first about a tier4 warrior...but we ended up clearing 2 of the timed events, would have had the third if we had not stopped for looting the chests and had not died once to dragonhawk trash. We were 2 minutes off on the timer. We full cleared ZA in just over 2 hours...which really made me happy as its been a while since I was able to see Zul'jin dead. I even walked away with two upgrades. One tanking (the shoulders) and one dps (the chest) and made a few good friends along the way.
After that was said and done, I got one last whisper...this time from some random person asking me if I wanted to tank Karazhan. Since it was the first time in a week that I had even been spec'd prot...I figured, Sure what the hell... and went for it. Little to my knowledge...it was YET again another group of the very people that were complete jackasses to me on that guild app...the ones that said my gear was terrible and that I did not deserve to be in their ranks. I made sure to make him bite his tongue as I was pushing out 1200-1400 tps in Karazhan. He kept making small remarks the rest of the night, but he kept quiet for the most part. We ended up clearing through chess and stopped at 5am. I was dead tired...so I went, sold the crap in my inventory and crashed.
Sunday rolls around and I'm extremely excited to go gem and enchant my new shoulders. First thing I do is run to the bank to see how many holy dust I have... and look for my shoulders... They were no where to be found. It took me two hours to finally get ahold of this sweet GM who joked with me a bit and finally told me that she had done some research and I had vendored them many hours before. Thats what I get for selling my garbage after Karazhan at 5am...never again. When all was said and done, she bid me farewell and told me "May all your hits be crits" Me being the smartellic that I am quickly responded "Nooo....I'm a tank. Me taking crit hits are bad..." Her response to this was "I was talking about your hits. I hope you don't get too hard" Fun typoes always are worth the laugh
I didn't give her any grief over it, just laughed, Screen shotted, and went on my way.My guildies finally talked me into tanking SV for them after I had finished running Mech with another guild who did nothing the whole time but try to recruit me because their MTs had bailed on them. This is usually a sign no? Anyway, the SV run. After finally getting everyone there and ready, I notice the mage who is a pug and a friend of a guildie is in the guild which has previously caused problems with me. <ROFLCOPTERS> had previously ninja'd my heroic mech save for the day as well as mouthed the entire guild outside of ZA as their leader sat there...I do not like this guild, and mentioned it in say. I should have left right then...but no, I am a nice person that gave the guy a chance....big mistake. We start pulling, first pull...the priest DCs. I manage to tank two heroic elites by myself, in my full threat gear, using concussion blow, healthstones health pots and bandages just to have the priest log back in after the fight. Again..should have been a sign. Next few pulls go fine, then the mage decides to run up and agro the mobs by the first big door. He uses Sheep to pull apparently because I thunderclapped as soon as i saw them move his way and put them both on me. His comment "Thunderclap breaks sheep." I'm thinking to myself now...Ok, I know how to tank. I've done it tons of times...so i tell him "Its the only way I have to pick up mobs when you pull initial agro with a CC skill." His comment to me "Use Demo shout..." I about died right there. Was this guy truly trying to tell me how to tank when I just saved him a repair bill? He sure enough was. We continued the instance a bit more, I had broken sheep once or twice because he decided to sheep right on top of me in a group of four mobs. Sheep is easy to replace, and its not like i did it continually..I usually tried to time it to hit it before he sheeped them because he was moving a bit slow...but I did mistime it a few times. Again, the comment came out after I had said something "says the warrior who doesn't use demo shout to pick up threat". That right then was when I just blew up on him. I can take constructive criticism. I know I am not right all the time....and I always love to hear tips and such on things I do not know, but when a DPS tries to tell me how to tank when they cannot even focus fire the right marked mob? Yeah, I lose my nerve especially on a pug. I mean correct me if I am wrong, but not once have I ever seen ANYONE designate circle as the first target when there is a skull and an X marked as well? I may have went a little overboard on the guy, but I had already had a rough day and the last thing I wanted to deal with was some pug trying to tell me that Demo shout pushes out a good deal of threat for picking up multiple mobs so he doesnt have to reapply sheep simply because he sheeped it under my feet. Not once did anyone die because they pulled agro off of me...and even with 2 warlocks we only used the sheep as the only CC. I think I did pretty well even with having to avoid breaking the sheep at my feet every pull. With that said and done, i left that group after dying three times on the last boss because they refused to focus fire the tanks....THREE TIMES... and i died because i was taking .5 second swing timer 6700 hits...the priest could not keep up and the dps was blaming him for it and almost tried to blame me...I thwarted that idea fast. We finally got him down...I had to yell at them in vent because it was a bit over done...three times i tell them to dps the tanks, three times they refuse to do so quickly and worry too much about dps on the boss and I have to pay 5g per time.
After the run was over, i find myself earning a 26g repair bill for 3 deaths...lovely.
That is why 33/28/0 > 8/7/46. Running heroics only allows me to gain a repair bill because people tend to always mess up and i need nothing from them. Its human nature...but atleast a mess up in a BG or an arena does not cost me gold..it only costs me time....and I have alot more time than I do gold.
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I personally love it when PuGs tell me things like that, I did it one time where he was being a pain and so all I was doing was demo shouting the AEs, not tab devastate or anything((one time.. ONE.. I hit a sheep doing that and he tells me how to tank)) and let him die about 20 times, then I'd pick them back up and we'd four man em... after a while he died and we just moved on leaving his corpse... I would only reccomend it if you know you can 4 man the dungeon well. The best was his guild master sent me afterwords((a person I'd tanked for before so he knew i wasnt an idiot)) and he apologized for the way the guy had acted. His own guild master didn't believe what he was saying, that was fun. But I also hate DPSing as a warrior so the repair bills are a constant part of my life in the game
Posted 02-04-2008 at 10:22 AM by Jylina
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Klor, the mage was correct about the Demo Shout thing. No, it's not good threat, but will push you above the mage who is pulling with sheep. Not that I would ever want the mage to sheep pull, or that the mage wasn't retarded, but yes I use Demo Shout frequently to grab agro over things such as body pull agro (although I prefer Bloodrage if it isn't on CD).
If a CC'er puts a sheep right next to me, TC, Intim Shout and that sheep will be someplace further away. I've been using Intimidating Shout more and more to fix annoying CC targets, I'm starting to really like it.Posted 03-24-2008 at 01:41 AM by Kream












