(Adult Language) Save the drama for yo momma.

So recently, we had our only good hunter and a decent healing priest gquit (The priest had low attendance, but the hunter was a kick in the groin)

Some drama started in my guild forums and escalated to the point of ridiculous. Heres the abridged version (For laughs)

Edit: I didnt really clarify, but this priest is one of the worst players I have ever seen, she has died IN the raid with constructs both times she got the debuff. She's died as many as 5 times in one Supremus kill. (Waste of Brez's) She gets excited to be in the top 15 dps, but rarely beats the tanks by more then 5-10%. During Kael she stood in flamestrikes, and kited Thaladred into the caster NPC (Who killed her). During Vash she got aggro on a strider, and kited it THRU the middle, any time she is given an assignment that involves anything more then stand still and mind flay, she fails.

From Lichi (Hunter that left)
I'm out
We're gonna keep this short and sweet. We're done. This is not a game for us anymore and it's not fun for us to do this. We're not sure if it's the current atmosphere, the guildies, the content or a combination of all the above but We're not looking forward to raiding every night, We're dreading it. Good luck in the content. Peace.

Seraphin and Lichi

/start gay jokes

-Skip past 4-5 posts from people saying good raiding with you guys, take care etc-

From our spriest (lol begins):
They didn't stop playing. They immediately joined some dumpy guild called six sigma.... Hahaha good luck on their "fun" while they are wiping to Gruul. God bless.

Also, shouldn't their access be removed likw all the other traitors?


My reply (Unrelated Content cut out, was mainly comments about how I would miss them)
Once again, all I have to say is the truth of how I feel.

Who cares how dumpy the guild they joined is? It shouldnt concern you, as you appear to feel victorious that two of the people that called you out all the time are gone. You've won, or something, let it rest.

This whole attitude of turning around and insulting people that leave because they left is stupid, maybe if you didnt harbor all these unspoken complaints they wouldnt want to leave?

We're not a hardcore guild, so stop acting like it, especially if you dont have an A game to bring.

-Skip past 4 posts agreeing with me, and another 5 that are saying the same thing-

Warr CL locks it with:
Okie i get last word (unless that busybody Xalgor overrides the lock LOL)

They are gone their access is removed (which is standard procedure nothing against them)and we are recruiting to replace them...

As you all know i never had a real problem with either of them except their attitudes at times...but hey we all have them as witnessed by this thread!

As i said i wish them luck and hope they can help 6sigma out though I BET they are officers soon whether they like it or not heh (I know Sheesh he was in my guild for like 18 months pre-bc)

REMEMBER guys: they still have friends here who are valued (as they were) and temperment really needs to be had cause I dont like some of the elitest views im seeing either

LOCKED!!!

-In a different thread, which was people making fun of each other (Jokingly) this is where it got interesting-

From Spriest:
This is continuation since the other thread (lichi quits) was locked. Nordor, I don't really like this thread. Guild tension is high right now and this thread is just stirring up BS. (Sorry apparently my buzz wore off)

You know something? I'm not really having fun either, but I still show up and I do try. Its pretty fucking LATE for me when I raid with this guild. Its 12am my time when we finish, sometimes later. I'm very tired towards the end since I get up at 6am. I admit that sometimes I fuck up. I think most people fuck up, except for maybe Xal and scrounge,so meh, whatever.

If lichi or seraphin (The whole 5 times he actually showed up) talked shit I about me, I really don't care. All assholes are muted in vent anyway so I likely never heard them and therefore didn't have any hostility toward them for that. I was only pissed at the way the exit post was worded because it appeared deceptive. Lichi explanation made sense after he reposted. But why not just be like Lime and come out and say it "Im joining another guild because <XYZ>.

Anyway please don't generalize about what I do or don't do when people leave because you're fucking wrong, I have said almost exclusively nice things about everyone else who left. I was just pissed that Lichi's good bye was worded in a way that sounded like they were quitting wow and not just sin. Now that it was "explained", I understand. Case over.

And BW, you've had some less than ideal "non-A game moments" dousies yourself if I recall, so really go fish when saying someone else isn't bringing their "A game".

Lastly, I want to point out that I am actually NOT happy Lichi left. I had mixed feelings about him personally, but I appreciated what he brought to the raids. Now maybe if I didn't have him muted on vent, I'd feel differently. Honeslty I think anyone who is NOT an officer needs to STFU during raids. Noone that has ever fucked up themselves really has any right to bitch at someone else -if they are not a raid leader or an officer. I would guess that would be most of us. Anyway whatever.

My reply: (On a personal note, I have sustained over 1k TPS on every WWS I have looked at for the last 3months, on top of having slightly faster reflexes then our other tanks at grabbing my targets, they've made me the first kill target every night since my 2nd week raiding)

The fact that you got offended speaks worlds more then any comment I could have made, Orr. And I would be pleased as punch if you could tell me the last time my screwup has wiped a raid. I've learned how to tank in this guild, and have improved to a point where I feel the number of mistakes I make is very small, if any. If you can think of any one time in particular, I would be surprised, but this wasnt about me, I was just disgusted by the haughty insulting of attitude, with an incredible amount of attitude.

Her reply:
BW, whatever. I was talking about when you were in your learning stage and you have messed up after that. No biggie, everyone messes up sometimes. Did you realize that not being about to hold aggro or picking up targets very slowly may not direcly wipe the raid but can lead to a wipe just as easily? Also amazed you accuse me of havin an attude because you seem to have a haughty attiude as well. Why don't you guys that bashed me buy a set of balls, and read back the lichi post... cause I never bashed them personally at all. (But someone else did. Funny how no ones had the rocks to say a peep about that. Nothing against that person on my part. She spoke her mind. I'm more amazed that the same ppl that jump up my ass for a perceived "attack" on lichi and seraphin said not a peep about other people with much harsher words than mine).

The only thing I was angry about was that he left and insulted that it seemed like he was saying he was tired of Wow, not of Sin and when I saw where he went, it was like an extra slap in the face. I can always accept when people want to go to a better guild especially if they are good cause that makes sense. Going that far back in progression is... I dunno.. painful. And I do know the guild. Love the MT to death, but the fact is I ran with him enough to know he sucks as a tank. Not saying he sucks. It's just he isn't a good tank. That's all. He's a good player when he's DPS.

Also you don't know me at all so please do not ASSume that you know my intentions or motivations. You were dead wrong on a number of points, but I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology there since you're not the type to admit when you're wrong. Anyway out of respect for Scrounge, I suggest we drop it. If you have further drama, you can discuss with me personally. I really don't have anything more to say to you though and I really don't care what you have to say so let's just drop it please.

My reply:
What points was I wrong on? I stated my opinion, I didnt say the world was square, and covered with chocolate marshmallows. If you think my opinion is wrong, thats fine too, people are allowed to believe whatever they want.

If your not having fun, then stop raiding.

As for an apology, please let me know what I was vastly wrong on, or where I painted a picture of skewed motives, or whatever it is you seemed to see.

Please stop with the passive aggresive stuff, it gets old, either stick it thru or dont post, this isnt you trying to get out of trouble for another wipe, you dont need to point in every direction but towards yourself.

If Scrounge or Xal wants this to stop, then just say so, drama or not its the invisible elephant in the room, you have to bump into it eventually.

-And now, ladies and gentlemen, the amazing PM that really brought things to a head, from her to me-

From Spriest:
Whateva
Scrounge DID ask everyone to stop a few posts before you posted to stir shit up again. L2Read. and you are an ASShole. YOU were talking to me since you QUOTED something I said in my post and then repeated used "YOU" (Directed at me) before flinging some harsh insults at me. You're not perfect, so honestly STFU. You are the douchebag elitist, not me. Take a look in the mirror.

You are also a complete hypocrit. I've heard you talk total shit about pugs you've been in and the people in them. You know, unless you are delusional, you know that Sheesh sucks as a tank. Si that is my opinion, yes, but trust me, anyone that has the musfortune to group with him, since he started attempting to tank has that opinion as well. So why is osih allowed to have a nasty opinion about lichi and you say nothing directly to or about her, yet you jump down my throat. All I have tp say to that is fuck you. Grow a set, then maybe I'll give half a shit of what you have to say.

Seriously.Stop being an asshole and calling some people out and letting your pals slide for doing the same shit or worse. You know you did that and you're a retard if you aren't smart enough to realize it. I don't expect an apology as you have a very warped perspective and you twist shit around. I never ever once claimed I never made a mistake or wiped the raid... but you have done it by your inability to hold aggro or pick up shit fast. You can deny THAT all you want but it doesn't make it any less true.

Personally, I think you need to go get laid or something. You're as cranky as shit all the time lately. But meh.

_________________
Orrianna - 70 Shadowpriest
Aggroing Xal so you don't have to - Since 2007


My reply to her
Sure, lets get personal.

I can personally recall no less then 7 raids where you have been the contributing factor towards wiping the raid, none of the officers like you because of your inability to function at an average level. I had 3 of the officers tell me "Good post" referring to both of my replies to you. Personally, the way you refuse to improve is offensive, I still have no idea why Xal continues to invite you, even when you continue to have the situational awareness of a rock. I'm not sure why you think I am cranky lately, I just dont appreciate someone who is barely a warm body in a raid commenting about one of our stars. Hes gone, it sucks, I know for a fact that part of the reason he left is because you wiped us on constructs and Xal said almost nothing to you. Please, get better and then come back to me, I may be an asshole, but I dont waste 24 other people's times every night. We're not hardcore, but you belong in a "Mario Teaches Typing" level of raiding, its not funny anymore, you have cost the guild countless hours thru your wipes, that you wont even claim. Instead you use crappy played out excuses "Oh im tired", guess what I saw the combat log during Teron where you fucking killed YOURSELF with shadow word death, maybe if the officers knew they will finally understand that you simply dont give a shit about anyone else in the raid. I'm sick of your shit attitude to match your shit play.

Osih isnt my friend either, but I saw her back in SoP when she sucked, she has improved her game immensely, where you continue to stagnate to a point thats laughable.

You have no interpersonal skills, you aren't very good dps, your mana return is poor, and you run towards fire like a crow towards a piece of foil. You complain about people to lazy to buff, and I have seen you ask for priest buffs from the other priests.

You are wasting everyone else's time, and if you arent having fun dragging us all down, please stop raiding.


Her reply to me, sent while the other priests were buffing (lol)
I've never asked for a priest but from other priest. If they are buffing my GROUP and I'm trying to buffs the entire raid every 20 mins with shadow, yes ill ask them to do their assigned buff. Don't give me the bullshit that you've never wiped the raid. You just do it indirectly. I was not the only one that had issues with teron. If you had pulled your head out of your ass, maybe you're realize i was said i FUCKUING lagged out. I was spamming buttons but
nothinf was happening on my screen. PErsonally to think you head is too far up your ass to notice or you're too busy licking your own asshole. As far as my dps, take a look and the WWW being having youyr verbal dirarhea. I was ALWAYS top until i got very outgeared. So fuck you. I don't see the word officer next to your name so maybe trying STFU? Oh yeah? You suck at tanking. You are slower than shit picking up your adds, you have wiped raids and the other tanks can tank well and still do double your DPS. GEt back to my when you understand reality. You're the fucking elisti. I never claimed to be better than anyone else, but you walk around with your nose in the air like you're awesome, when you can pull it out of your ass to take a breath.

Anyway so harrassing me. I dont give a shit about you or your obnoxious opinions. Serioisly. Go die in a car fire

-During the raid she made several laughable comments, and managed to stay alive while doing 600 whole dps (Up from the usually 400, so quite an improvement) and my final reply-

Cool. If all I have to do is point out your mistakes for you to perform like an average player, I will continue to keep it up.

I'm honestly impressed, last night was the first time in months you havent used your soulstone and still managed to die again. As for your dps being amazing, you were still 7 out of 13? I mean I guess thats pretty good for you, but go look at the Anetheron parse, where you did an amazing 435 dps for the fight where I did 382 tanking it. Your gear should easily be able to sustain 1k+. I understand you are very frustrated with my ability to observe, remember and point out your performance quirks, but it doesnt take an officer to see that you are usually a liability. I do have to thank you for the laughs, any time you try and prove a point, its like an episode of "Kids Say The Darndest Things". Nothing you say really makes any sense, but I guess thats in line with your ability to play the game. I wish I could just pat you on the head and tell you everything is okay, like some other people do, but I simply can't do that when I know that with only the slightest bit of effort you could perform at an average level - which was illustrated last night.