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sacredgoat
07-13-2011, 06:58 AM
I have a dps warrior and i was doing some FL trash the other day and firebound gorget (http://www.wowhead.com/item=70929) droped. Only 2 ppl rolled on it; me and the tank warrior. I won the roll and now he says he is cheated as that item is much superior for tanks then dps.

My reply is well, "dps warriors don't like mastery that much so it will be reforged; Tanks don't like exp that much so it will be reforged. The item isn't perfect either way so let the roll stand". Sure, i think it maybe leans towards tank more then dps ... but only slightly.

What do you guys think? Am i wrong in my conclusion? Either way i have yet to equip it as i just don't wanna screw someone outta gear if its clearly better for tanks over dps.

sorry, don't know how 2 make the mouse over item thing appear so i put the link

Fetzie
07-13-2011, 07:14 AM
I know that for paladin tanks that that necklace is BiS and 2nd BiS (heroic/non-heroic respectively); basically because there is no other 391 necklace and you cannot upgrade the VP one. Warrior tanks shouldn't be that different.

As for DPS necklaces I am unsure about the importance of the stats but there is http://www.wowhead.com/item=71212 (valor points) and http://www.wowhead.com/item=71019 (shannox, upgradable to 391).

I'm not saying you should give that other guy the necklace, but those are the two other options for strength DPS.

klausi
07-13-2011, 07:28 AM
You want strength and this is a low stength item. Just look at the Molten Front reward (worth 30 minutes of your time) in comparison:

http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=70929;70107

sacredgoat
07-13-2011, 07:29 AM
According to wowhead ... you can upgrade the VP tank necklace
http://www.wowhead.com/item=71589

Tengenstein
07-13-2011, 07:29 AM
at 378 i'd say the valour one is better for warrior tanks unless he was way ahead on parry rating.

klausi
07-13-2011, 07:41 AM
According to wowhead ... you can upgrade the VP tank necklace
http://www.wowhead.com/item=71589
Have a look around, they also have all the 378 reputation rewards listed as 391 version as well, but they actually don't exist in the game (no vendor/droprate/etc).

@Tengenstein
In 378+ gear almost everybody will be way ahead on parry rating, sadly.. I'm already 800 rating off and can't really fix that unless i pick up two offset pieces (chest/shoulder) on the road and maybe even add an avoidance trinket.

Bung
07-13-2011, 07:59 AM
You took a tank neck from a tank. plain and simple, sorry. Next time do your research ahead of time. You want the VP dps neck or the one off shannox.

Loganisis
07-13-2011, 09:20 AM
You want strength and this is a low stength item.

iirc it actually has barely more stength than 359 necks.


You took a tank neck from a tank. plain and simple, sorry. Next time do your research ahead of time. You want the VP dps neck or the one off shannox.

And that, is the whole story.

Theotherone
07-13-2011, 09:22 AM
It was a pug run (so it appears), I assume it MS>Freeroll, it's a dps or tank item, it fit your main spec, you rolled, you won; move on. I am so sick of the menaltity of "that's really a [choose class] item so they should get it" in pugs. If it can be used both ways, tough shit, complain to Blizz to make their itemization cleaner and clearer.

If it's a guild run, I know with us, we defer, but in a pug - screw it, you won be happy.

Bung
07-13-2011, 09:43 AM
"Blizz to make their itemization cleaner and clearer."

I can agree with that. That specific item is very poorly itemized.

sacredgoat
07-13-2011, 07:39 PM
Thank you all for your input