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Machoen
05-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Hello guys, I need some suggestions. My problem is that my guild recently disbanded and I looked for new guilds, but all of the guilds that was on the approximately same content as me was booked on tanks, so I applied as a fury dps. I have full 359 gear as fury, and also tank.

Seems like I dont enjoy it as much as I enjoy raiding as a tank, but I always hated to tank heroics, and enjoyed dpsing more. What should I do? Leave and find a new guild? It feels like to soon when I just joined.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/sylvanas/clone/advanced

thanks,

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PimpJuice4
05-08-2011, 03:53 PM
im assuming you logged out in your pvp gear


because no guild thats serious about raiding is going to want to invite in a fury warrior in full pvp gear and actually invite you to raids.and from expierance,theres pretty much no reason to play if you cant raid.seeing as how theres really nothing else to do in this expansion.although,i gotta admit.ive tanked with a warrior before and i recently made a druid and i actually like tanking alot better on my druid then i did on my warrior

but meh,i actually think dpsing with a warrior was more fun though.but i havent tried out boomkin yet so i dont know.maybe boomkin is more fun then feral cat cuz i know feral is pretty crappy at the moment dps wise.or as far as what ive looked at,the only feral druid in my guild that raided quit my guild a long time ago but she didnt really pull all that great dps.this was in wrath though

Libellus
05-09-2011, 03:53 AM
im assuming you logged out in your pvp gear


because no guild thats serious about raiding is going to want to invite in a fury warrior in full pvp gear and actually invite you to raids.

Have to agree with this statement I'm afraid.

A few pieces of PvP gear, sure, that won't hurt and shouldn't stop you from putting out some respectable numbers. In fact, you probably do put out respectable numbers in full PvP gear, but few raid guilds will give you the chance to prove this.

If you did log out in full PvP gear by accident, then feel free to ignore the following. Otherwise the problems with your PvP gear are.

1) You're not at the first hit cap.
2) You're not expertised capped.
3) None of your items are reforged to hit the above caps or for more beneficial stats.
4) Your spec appears to be for PvP rather than raiding.

If you're wanting to tank, but can't find a guild with a free tank slot, then getting in as DPS and proving you're capable that way is a good route to a tank spot. If you get a session where the tank is away and you can fill in, then you're one step closer to securing yourself a full time slot. DPSing might not be as much fun for you in the interim, but consider it a means to an end and you'll get there.

Pacans
05-10-2011, 01:38 AM
There are few aspects to look at
First would be guild. Do You enjoy to raid with them? Like on some VOIP application or simple in chat. If You do then probably it would be worth waiting to prove yourself to them as a tank and take that post in longer terms. If You don't enjoy their company and stick with them only to be able to raid then probably You should go for chance in other guild.
Second would be You. Which part of raiding do You like most. Just tanking and running around with shield or playing with other people. If members around You doesn't meter so much for You then I think answer is clear.
Main point is - game is created to enjoy You and You are paying for that then why would You do something You don't like?

Machoen
05-10-2011, 04:43 AM
Sorry, was doing arenas at the time, I got full pve gear.

Pacans. What I enjoyed in my previous guild was that we had good communication. We talked on ventrilo, spoke a lot in guild chat. In my new guild they don't say hi back when I log in.

And yes. I enjoy tanking more than dpsing. When tanking I feel like I'm doing something for the raid except pulling off high dps.

swelt
05-10-2011, 05:47 AM
IMO if you are going to enjoy playing DPS long term, you need to get into the mindset that doing the most damage you possibly can IS doing something important for the raid. Get competitive. Fight your way up the damage meter. Even if you aren't going to top every meter, you at least need to consider your part in the encounter to be important... which it is. High dps matters, the quicker things die the easier everything becomes.

That's the change of role side of things. Sounds like that's only half your issue, and the other is the social side of changing guild. I'm not best qualified to advise on that, but it seems like something you can't expect to just click into place. It takes time to get to know a guild and the people in it. Either it'll work out for you, or you just won't get along and the best thing to do will be to be up front with them, let them know that you don't feel that you are fitting in and go find somewhere else.

Machoen
05-10-2011, 07:02 AM
I know exactly what you mean. I guess it's just that fury is too easy to play, topping the meters with a minimum dps of 19k. Tried some pve with my fire mage, was way more fun.

Giliandrix
05-10-2011, 07:08 AM
Seeing as how you gem incorrectly, and reforge incorrectly too, enchant correctly, I don't believe you come anywhere close to 19k DPS on a non-gimmick fight.

You should read this for starters

http://elitistjerks.com/f81/t110350-cataclysm_warrior_faq_4_1_updates_progress/

37/37 Expertise is unacceptable.

swelt
05-10-2011, 07:08 AM
Maybe you would prefer arms. I hear it's pretty competitive for damage with fury, provides some rarer raid buffs and is considered more challenging to play. I offspec fury precisely because it is easy, and thus I can perform adequately without as much practice and pay more attention to other stuff (as a raid leader).

Machoen
05-10-2011, 07:26 AM
Just because a guide says something else, doesnt mean I cant pull of 19k dps, as a matter fact, why the .. would I lie? I am here for help, not to get you on wrong foot. I think my gemming is relevant, and the expertise is because of my main hand.

Machoen
05-10-2011, 07:26 AM
I understand what you mean swelt.

Giliandrix
05-10-2011, 07:34 AM
For your bracers you are enchanting Expertise while at 37/37, You are also suggesting that 20 Str < 20 Crit + 10 mastery which is false.
For your helm you are using a spell reflect gem.
All the expertise on your weapon is not reforged.
You have a stamina gem in your belt (Also wrong gemming in and of itself)
Ring reforged wrong

Machoen
05-10-2011, 07:40 AM
Sorry my mistake I thought it was full strength enchanted, I've been playing pvp for a while and I was told this a while back that I should go for full strength, and I guess I forgot to regem my pve gear. I didnt know of the expertise enchant until now, my apologizes. But this thread is not about my gear.

Bung
05-10-2011, 07:43 AM
To answer your question in a "non-gear" manner, stay dps. Do what you find fun or you won't be playing wow very long.

Machoen
05-10-2011, 07:46 AM
I will try my best, and I will do what the guides tell me,

Off topic:

Hows my gear/enchants now?

Meshuggah
05-10-2011, 07:50 AM
Bung is right. Play what you want because it's fun. Expand your horizon's as well. Other servers have guilds that have a spot for ya.

Giliandrix
05-10-2011, 07:52 AM
Better :)

swelt
05-10-2011, 08:34 AM
Hows my gear/enchants now?
Weapon enchants could use some love. Remember that the pvp set bonus gives you disarm protection for free so you don't even lose pvp viability by ditching that weapon chain. If you can't afford landslide (which is much cheaper since 4.1) then I'm fairly sure that hurricane is your next best option.

Machoen
05-11-2011, 07:08 AM
Not about the gold, also my guild provides enchants. I got it for the hit rating as I was low in pvp. Thanks.

leethaxor
05-11-2011, 11:53 AM
Not about the gold, also my guild provides enchants. I got it for the hit rating as I was low in pvp. Thanks.
Heres a taste of the dps mindset:

"Its not about what your guild provides, or what they expect its what you do."

Just because they give you hurricane doesn't mean you shouldn't use landslide.
Just because they only expect you to pot during heroism doesn't mean you shouldn't prepot.
Just because they have a +60 feast doesn't mean you shouldn't buy your own +90 food.

Your dps is your raid contribution. Its what you have and what you do, you should do it at the best you can without question.

Machoen
05-12-2011, 04:56 AM
- I bought landslide before raid last night.
Question: Why is hurricane better than avalanche?
- I do prepot.
- Our fish feast gives +90 stats.

Tengenstein
05-12-2011, 08:20 AM
Probably becuase more haste means more white swings which means more damage, & more rage, & more procs of enrage, which means even more damage.

Contravene
05-12-2011, 10:13 AM
Machoen I believe your DPS is up there I have rolled with plenty of Warriors way worse than you were.. I bet putting out that little bit more now is nice. I have a different problem my first love is Tanking and all of my VP go to tank gear. But I was asked to DPS on V&T I think couple months ago now and since have fallen in love with DPS. I PvP Ret and I queue for VP runs very often pug ret I love it so much.. The new 353 gear from ZA/ZG is helpful if I can get some.., honestly I long for better DPS gear but I love my Tank end of the subject. Made it to Chogal last night!! Tanked Halfus, was TOP DPS on V&T, then tanked it from there where called it at Chogal until this evening. Most my guildies have the stuff from these guys so I can start off spec rolling for Ret probably.

My point. Even for me I could not join a guild where I am not a tank even as much as I love to DPS if that helps you.. I wanna tank that's why all my gear is sparkly purple on him. Finding a decent group of guys omg what a challenge I am a very luck guy to be accepted into my guild.

Machoen
05-12-2011, 10:15 AM
Contravene - I know what you mean, and I enjoyed dpsing last night.
Tengenstein - You told me something I didn't know about haste, thank you.

Banterloft
05-12-2011, 10:35 AM
Sorry, was doing arenas at the time, I got full pve gear.

Pacans. What I enjoyed in my previous guild was that we had good communication. We talked on ventrilo, spoke a lot in guild chat. In my new guild they don't say hi back when I log in.

And yes. I enjoy tanking more than dpsing. When tanking I feel like I'm doing something for the raid except pulling off high dps.

It sounds to me like your homesick. To me, I love tanking, I love fury, I love healing but I love to do it with the people I've been doing it with for years. Your in that "new guy" role and it sucks. No one really knows you yet. No one really talks yet. They will, I think if you drop guild you will find the same problem in your next guild. Give them a chance.