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Peridot Sky
03-12-2011, 05:56 PM
So recently I decided to stop being lazy and ineffecient. I decided to pick up WoW mostly because I got tired of spending $50-$100 on supposed "Free to Play" games and their cash shops when I could save myself the trouble and just play WoW. I was indifferent b/c I heard good and bad things about the game but really the only bad thing I heard was that you had to pay $15 a month to play (this coming form F2P gamers) and put 2 and 2 together.

So now my point. I'm used to playing a Healer/Priest Class. I want to know is it difficult here in WoW (i.e. Long Cooldowns on vital spells or Nerfed Spells) and if the players in this game RAGE if they die and blame the Priest when its obvious their gear/playing style sux.

Plz Reply thx <333333

Peridot

Sebadoh
03-12-2011, 06:09 PM
Leveling is extremely easy, even as a healer (you can queue up for random dungeons, and healers have a short queue time). There is a pretty steep learning curve from 80 to 85 though, especially as a healer. One of the main points of the Cataclysm expansion was to make healer mana matter again, because previously healers could just spam their spells nonstop once they got a bit of gear.

And yes, "blame the healer" is fairly frequent among idiots, but you learn to deal with it.

Peridot Sky
03-12-2011, 06:18 PM
So Basically the heals and c/d's are ok but from 80-85 mana is an issue?
Another Q... How long does does it normally take one to get to lvl say...60-70? And are the skills limited to certain expansions?

Fetzie
03-12-2011, 06:51 PM
I levelled my priest alt from 80-85 as discipline, zero downtime, went as fast as in shadow spec. I didn't stop to drink once between 80 and 84.

Peridot Sky
03-12-2011, 07:05 PM
Oh i probably should have specified more i just recognized. I meant starting at lvl 1 to get to 60 or 70. srry for the mix up

Fetzie
03-12-2011, 07:07 PM
you can level up from 1 as discipline/holy too, it just gets easier at higher levels because you have more talent points available :)

Peridot Sky
03-12-2011, 07:09 PM
yeah i was gonna go Holy then later a little Disc i expect lvling to be extremely slow like in other rpgs b/c of lack of damage. Am I accurate?

Fetzie
03-12-2011, 07:10 PM
disc is slightly slower than shadow, but you don't go OOM and your health bar never really drops low either.

Peridot Sky
03-12-2011, 07:14 PM
Any Holy?

Fetzie
03-12-2011, 07:17 PM
holy is about the same as disc, maybe uses slightly more mana.

Selene
03-12-2011, 08:06 PM
Its from 84 to 85 that a lot of healers notice major mana issues.

Reev
03-12-2011, 09:16 PM
So Basically the heals and c/d's are ok but from 80-85 mana is an issue?
Another Q... How long does does it normally take one to get to lvl say...60-70? And are the skills limited to certain expansions?

I can get to 60 in about a week of moderate playing, but that's with heirloom gear and guild benefits to XP gains. So probably you're looking at closer to 2 weeks, especially if you've never played the game before. If you're leveling as a healer and wanting to do some questing in addition to dungeons, it will be even slower. That's still far faster than it was back when level 60 was the XP cap. 60-70 goes slightly slower, and then 70-80 is much slower. 80-85 doesn't take too long, but there's a lot of re-learning that has to happen, because a lot of things change.

Loganisis
03-12-2011, 10:13 PM
And are the skills limited to certain expansions?

Skills are limited to certain expansions only because of the level cap.

If you just get WoW, you can only get to level 60 and the skills requiring level 60 and below
70 is TBC
80 is Wrath
85 is Cata

Or at least that's how it was. So if you don't have certain expansions there are caps you will reach and parts of the game you can't go to. Butif you have WoW-Cata, then it's really a function of what level you currently are, not the zone you're in.

Selene
03-13-2011, 01:35 PM
And are the skills limited to certain expansions?

Unless it has changed you need Burning Crusade to learn Jewelcraft and to be a Blood Elf and Draenei, you need Wrath to learn Inscriptions and to be a Death Knight, you need Cataclysm for Arch, Goblins, Worgen.

Theotherone
03-14-2011, 07:50 AM
I found leveling as Shadow to be much easier then holy/disc; plus once you hit 30 you can dual spec and break things and kill monsters as Shadow while questing and heal in dungeons as holy/disc. I have a horde priest, undead, that I took from 1 -47 in about a week; no heirlooms, guild help, or big brother toons to give it gold.

The grind from 70-80 should not be as bad now, they buffed it so you get 15% more XP questing.

And yes idiots will blame the healer when they die, if they are not blaming the tank.

Riz
03-14-2011, 11:27 AM
i personnally found it faster to lvl as a healer, and not quest at all (except when waiting in a dungeon que for tank)..Questing can be slow, and dps dungeon ques r insanely slow...With heirlooms (u wont have these until u have atleast 1 lvl capped player) i lvld a prot warr, and resto shaman at the same time (one lost rested status, i played the other, he unrested i went back to the other, etc) and both went from 1-70 in under 6 days during wotlk(bout2.5-3days each)..I hade the chest,shoulders, and fishing ring heirlooms at the time, and all the other ones that donthelp exp gains...

Contravene
03-14-2011, 11:55 AM
When did they buff levels 70-80 for 15% more?

Loganisis
03-14-2011, 12:01 PM
When cata dropped. I thought they decreased the amount of XP needed, not that they buffed XP received? Anyway, I recall something about the net effect being a 20-25% increase in leveling speed from 70-80 with Cata dropping.

Doc309
03-14-2011, 12:03 PM
the grind form 60 to 70 always seemed worse to me more than 70 to 80....

Loganisis
03-14-2011, 12:07 PM
o_O I much prefer 60-70 than 70-80. I hit 74 and it just feels like a horrible grind to me. I can hit 63 without leaving HF, 65 after Zanger, 68 after HF and on to borean tundra... It's 67-70 in outland that I find a grind. But I blow through the earlier levels pretty easily...

And maybe that's why Northrend seems so grindy... I'm using it to finish up the last couple of levels from outland.... I just dislike Blades edge so much...

Reev
03-14-2011, 12:12 PM
I usually go all the way to 60 in vanilla zones now, because they feel so good. I'll go 60-63 in Hellfire, 63-66 in Zangar, and 66-68 in Nagrand before going on to Northrend. Everything goes fine until I hit Howling Fjord, and then it just feels so damn slow. By the time I reach Venomspite at level 72, I'm just exhausted and ready to do something else. Generally by the time I hit 75, the feeling of malaise is over, and I can blow through Storm Peaks and Icecrown Glacier in a few hours, pushing me to 80.

Theotherone
03-14-2011, 12:26 PM
When cata dropped. I thought they decreased the amount of XP needed, not that they buffed XP received? Anyway, I recall something about the net effect being a 20-25% increase in leveling speed from 70-80 with Cata dropping.

Maybe you're right, maybe it was lowering the XP needed, I'll find out soon; but the net effect is the same, faster 68 - 80.

I found 80 -85 to just blow by, especially the 80-83 range. That said, the two toons I blew through to 85 (pally and mage) are way behind my others in terms of rep. It really is worth it to quest the crap out of zones to get the rep; especially for dps with the 40 min dungeon wait ques.

Crittable
03-14-2011, 02:30 PM
... I just dislike Blades edge so much...

This was the reason that it took me so long to get Loremaster. HATE Blade's Edge.

But I've always hated outlands, loved northrend, and love the cata zones. Only thing is, even though it felt like I leveled slower in outlands and faster in northrend, it was actually opposite. By the time I finished half of Hellfire, all of Zangarmarsh, and most of Nagrand, I was 68 and heading to northrend. In Northrend, I would finish all of Borean, all of Dragonblight, all of Scholazar Basin, and some of Peaks and Icecrown and finally get that magic ding 80.


As far as the above mention of killing like a shadow priest with only a little more mana dump, I must have been doing it wrong. At 80, I started leveling my priest as disc with an atonement spec and I was going through a ton of mana and getting down to nearly half health before the mob was dead. I switched to shadow at 82 and never had a problem with mana or health until I hit Twilight Highlands and had more than 1 mob on me.