View Full Version : Warrior Needing Some help guys would appreciate all the help i can get

02-21-2011, 08:39 PM

Is my Warrior, I'm trying to get Raid ready for my guild but and having concerns cause in heroics and in BH i've only been pushing 10-12k dps id like to get everyones input on what should i reforge or gem and should i keep getting more hit ? and i've been told the soft hit cap is 8% and i feel like i've gone beyond that with 14.61% hit but i feel like i could get rid of some like 3-4% of that hit and put it in crit but not sure if that would hinder me would like your guys opinions and see what has worked for you all and what hasen't all feedback is appreciated thanks guys hope to hear from you all soon

02-22-2011, 03:19 AM
I'd say around 10-11% hit should work fine. So you can un-reforge that crit you've forged into hit, and you might want to reforge that excess expertise into crit as well.

Apart from that, the main thing I have to say to you is get grinding those reps. And, enchant the gear you've got.
But yeah, epic neck from Ramkahen, epic belt from Hyjal, 346 gloves from Wildhammer, and also your head enchant, that's pretty important. There is still quite a lot of gear out there that is not reliant on drop rates, just on you grinding the reputations, and doing that you should see your dps go up.

02-22-2011, 01:25 PM
Thanks ill take a look into all of that

02-22-2011, 11:52 PM
Epic rep neck is not as good as the justice point neck imo for fury. Haste is the worst stat we can have. I did grab the JP neck (iLvl 346) over the rep neck (iLvl 359). Am I wrong with that?

02-23-2011, 11:26 AM
In this case, with current gear, the JP neck is trash. The OP is already at 27 exp and should be reforging expertise into crit if possible or mastery if all his expertise gear has crit.


Rep has +22 str
Rep has +15 crit

Do you need expertise? If not, Expertise is a worse stat than haste. If so, how much? There's a lot of rating points hidden between 26 and 27 so it could be you need to reforge a smaller reforge somewhere else to make it to 26 exp than grab a neck with a lot of expertise on it.

Reforging options 127 haste -> 51 ratings (mastery or hit)
Reforging options 112 expertise -> 45 ratings (mastery or hit)

If you are desperate for expertise the itemization of the JP neck may be more worthwhile. And haste does stink. But 22 str and 15 crit are pretty big too...

My guess is in every case, unless the player is desperate for expertise, the rep neck, even though it has haste, will be better.

Now if the JP neck had mastery, that would be a more complex question. But given for raid boss purpsoes any exp over exactly 26 is worth nothing, and haste, even though stinky, is still worth something.

Stat inflation is such that even an meh itemization (best stat and worst stat) will likely be an upgrade unless the previous tier is perfectly itemized. If the higher ilvl gear has two poor stats (e.g. haste and hit, or haste and expertise) then a lower level or 2 item may in fact be better...

It's going to be done on a case by case basis.


So, assume you need Exp.

You're looking at:
168 str, 112 crit, and 112 expertise

Compare that to
190 str, 127 crit, 51 expertise, 76 haste.

JP is:
-22 str
-15 crit
+61 exp
-76 haste

You're almost certainly going to get more bang for your buck reforging somewhere else, as 22 str + 15 crit + 76 haste will probably outweigh the +61 exp, even when you factor in what you would have to reforge elsewhere, since you'd likely be giving up hit past 8% or mastery to get the extra Exp.

02-23-2011, 12:36 PM
Moved to HALP!

02-24-2011, 12:10 AM
Is my new since the past few days
and just to help everyone so they can help me better

Hit 13.52%
Haste 9.15%
Crit Chance 15.32%
Expertise 23/23
Mastery 10.01

02-24-2011, 12:29 AM
Too much haste. Reforge helm into expertise as needed, or mastery.

Reforge cloak haste into expertise as needed, or mastery.

Chest - you reforged mastery instead of haste. Reforge the haste into Crit.

Wrist - Work on your rep for the rep wrists. Reforge haste into crit.

Gloves - Reforge haste into crit

Belt - Undo the reforging. Use one of the haste spots above to get hit if you need it.
Belt (a) - Mt. Hyjal Exalted belt.
Belt (b) - dont' forget the belt buckle.

Ring 2 - Gorsik's Band - Reforge haste into exp as needed or mastery if not.

Trinket 2 - Heart of Solace - Reforge haste into crit. Can you make the alchemy trinket? http://www.wowhead.com/spell=96252

Blue is +str/+hit gems if you want hit and there's a str/crit/(mastery?) socket bonus (looking at gloves and boots)

Chest - If you need the hit, replace the +40 hit with +20 str/hit in the blue socket, or go full +40 str and skip the haste socket bonus.

Gems, you'll probably get more mileage out of str/hit gems over pure hit gems, especially since you're over 8%.