View Full Version : Paladin Threat Values (Cataclysm)

01-25-2011, 07:54 AM
Updated for 4.3.2
This listing is up to date as of 02/14/2012

General Notes:
Holy Power generates 0.5 threat per charge, unaffected by RF (except from DP, which is 0 threat)
Righteous Fury multiplier is 5x
Ret Aura multiplier is 2x
Overhealing multiplier is 0x
Healing multiplier is 0.50x (some provide no threat gain)
Judgement of Insight mana multiplier is 0.50x. All other sources are 0 threat.
Consecration generates an additional +12 threat per tick (before RF)
All Buffs generate 0 threat.

Damage Threat Modifiers

Damage w/RF (3x) without
Physical damage*5 damage*1
Holy damage*5 damage*1

Buff Threat Values

Buff w/RF (5x) without
Cleanse 170 34
Buffs 0 0

Debuff Threat Values

Debuff w/RF (5x) without
Consecration 0 0
JotJ 0 0
Vindication 0 0
SoJ 0 0
SoT 0 0

Healing / Energy Gain Threat Modifiers

Energy Gain w/RF (5x) without
FoL Healing heal*2.50 heal*0.50
HL Healing heal*2.50 heal*0.50
DL Healing heal*2.50 heal*0.50
LoH Healing heal*2.50 heal*0.50
SoI Healing heal*2.50 heal*0.50
WoG Healing 0 0
Overhealing 0 0
DP mana 0 0
JotW mana 0 0
SoI mana 0 0
JoI mana mana*2.50 mana*0.50
Sanc mana 0 0
DP Holy Power 0 0
CS Holy Power 0.5 0.5 (RF does not affect threat)
HotR Holy Power 0.5 0.5 (RF does not affect threat)

Special Threat Multipliers

Multipliers w/RF (5x) without
Ret Aura damage*10 damage*2
Consecration (dmg+12)*5 (dmg+12)*1

Special Thanks:
Special Thanks to Pyrea, who took the time to retest a lot of the above values for me.

Change History:
Updated for threat hotfix (3x => 5x)

Buffs generate 0 threat.
JotW mana gains no longer generate threat
DP mana gains no longer generate threat
HP from DP no longer generates threat (CS and HotR still do)

02-13-2011, 08:54 AM
I figured out my entry for Divine Plea was wrong. It wasn't the DP buff that was providing threat, but the holy power. Each charge of holy power generates 0.5 threat unaffected by RF. I verified this using CS in both prot and ret specs. In each of those cases, a "phantom" 0.5 threat got attached to the damage.

I also noticed that Consecration now applies an additional 12 threat (before RF) to each tick of damage.

05-06-2011, 05:48 AM
figured out my entry for Divine Plea was wrong. It wasn't the DP buff that was providing threat, but the holy power.

05-11-2011, 02:00 AM
All class abilities which place a buff on friendly targets no longer generate any threat. This goes for raid-wide buffs like Mark of the Wild and Power Word: Fortitude, as well as triggered effects such as Blessed Resilience or Fingers of Frost, and single-target buffs like Dark Intent and Hysteria. The exception is buffs which directly cause healing or damage, such as Thorns or Renew. Abilities such as these still generate normal threat.

Guess we're going to need to do more testing :)

05-11-2011, 02:03 PM
lol, yep. I saw that too. Blizzard likes to mess with me I swear.

07-08-2011, 04:37 PM
So did some testing:

Buffs definitely do not generate threat. A possible side effect of this is that mana gains from Divine Plea and JotW no longer grant threat for their mana gains. While SoI still provides half threat for healing and no threat for mana, Judgement of Insight still provides 0.5x threat for the mana it generates (it is now the only source of mana "threat").

Holy Power gains are still 0.5 threat if they come from CS or HotR. DP holy power gains generate no threat (probably due to the buffs not generating threat).

08-30-2012, 04:56 PM
Closing this in favor of: