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Ropetown
10-15-2010, 03:07 AM
Starting a series of videos on general tanking philosophy. This isn't going to be a guide on how to spec or how to gem your character, there is plenty of that on EJ/Tankspot. This is more along the lines of the thought process that goes on after you close EJ/Tankspot and charge in.

Part 1 is the introduction and path I want the project to take along with what makes a good tanking UI.

Chapter 1
Introduction / UI PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyIvdi6OksA
Introduction / UI PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7oFxW7a_uY
Introduction / UI PART 3 (Keybinds): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGc-xSdNrY&hd=1
Chapter 2
Tanking Priorities PART 1 (5 man): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLo20ZRNkU
Tanking Priorities PART 2 (H-Putricide): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjcYQ6GB-Kk
Tanking Priorities PART 3 (H-LK): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9xdbonumBc

My UI can be found here (http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?71297-Dux-UI).

If you have any questions, feedback or ideas for future videos for the project please send me a message on youtube/ropetownx, alpha-gaming.org or duxlawl@gmail.com

Agnum
10-15-2010, 07:48 AM
This is great. Thank for doing this and I hope you keep this project going. It's great for a newer tank like myself.

Ropetown
10-15-2010, 09:07 AM
Added part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7oFxW7a_uY

Icebreaker
10-15-2010, 02:15 PM
Very good. Keep going.

Ropetown
10-15-2010, 02:43 PM
Added links and references to part 2, thanks for watching!

Mior
10-15-2010, 03:14 PM
Good job so far, I really enjoyed the video's.

I think of myself as experienced tank, but it's still nice to see how others do things. After all, you're never to old to learn.

Bodasafa
10-15-2010, 04:46 PM
Well done videos sir.

Ropetown
10-15-2010, 09:42 PM
I have updated the main post with the second chapter of the series.

Tank Priorities PART 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzLo20ZRNkU

Also, due to the interest in my UI I have been putting together a beta version UI pack which will be out soon.

Thanks for the kinds comments and be sure to subscribe!


Be sure to send any questions or ideas to youtube.com/ropetownx, alpha-gaming.org or duxlawl@gmail.com

Gotenks
10-16-2010, 10:40 AM
Great vids. Rly helps with new ideas on what to do diff and improve. Keep them coming.

Grousey
10-16-2010, 01:55 PM
Hey, i have been tanking for a couple years and as far as being a tank goes i'm pretty good, great group awareness etc.. however this patch turned me into a poop one instantly. my gear is way above being heroics capable but also quite below the gear of icc gear dpsers (dps buff vs threat nerf not a discussion for here). Anyway, your priorities video is interesting. As far as which mob to attack first, i've always been good at that (reeling in 2 casters with gag order is very satisfying).

I have some questions though since i decided to look up your talents/glyphs to compare with what you are doing in the video.

A) incite, with your current crit rating of 2.23% does it really proc enough to feel comfortable with having 3 points in it? the idea of a nearly 1 in 5 shot makes it seem iffy.
B) cruelty, same question really i guess.
C) do you use devistate? couldn't see you use it in the video but you do have it glyphed.

are you holding the right mouse button down the entire time? i know you are using the mouse to turn because of the way you jump around but i never see the cursor..

Ropetown
10-16-2010, 04:02 PM
Heres a parse showing my damage break down and amount of crits. http://worldoflogs.com/reports/l8z26vqu5f9rrl6f/details/3/?s=1265&e=1372
Theres really no question if incite is worth it or not, and cruelty really just depends what you want from your 5 point thats you don't put into prot. War Academy, Cruelty, Blood Craze, and Field Dressing are all good choices.

Devastate went from being one of our most used abilities prior to 4.0 to now being just filler that I barely touch, basically just to keep sunders rolling or to fill if everything is on CD. (Only used 17 in that parse.)

Grousey
10-16-2010, 04:08 PM
just had a couple of successful heroics, made a macro tp use at start telling people to go skull then cross.. at least they have been told. i found that multiple trash without devastate was pretty easy but when it came to single target boss i needed it with everything else going on CD too quick.

think i'll pop some points into incite then and out of blood and thunder.. a great idea that turned out to be hugely disappointing.
Anyway, thanks for the vid it helped alot and now don't feel too much like quitting tanking (and thus probably the game). so cheers :D

Ariedan
10-16-2010, 04:17 PM
Great videos. I enjoy how in depth you go on the various subjects that many tanks typically don't think about. It's refreshing to see how much attention you pay to those sort of details.

The Lost sound threw me off track, though, ha!

Kurtosis
10-16-2010, 09:54 PM
Very good videos, will look forward to the next ones.

Question - what did you mean in the second one, on Sindragosa, where you said we can't 'throw around Vigilance anymore'? If I heard that right, I don't recall ever really throwing it around in the first place, but usually just putting it on my co-tank, or the highest threat dps, and leaving it there.

Ropetown
10-16-2010, 10:19 PM
Prior to 4.0.1 I would use vigilance as a threat reduction tool through-out the fight, always keeping it up on the highest current dps which would change multiple times a fight. I was just commenting that now without the 10% threat transfer it should no longer be used in that manner.

(Obviously there were exceptions to the rule such placing it on the OT for taunt refreshes for things like grabbing valks on hlk.)

Dispose
10-17-2010, 12:15 PM
bump

Ropetown
10-20-2010, 07:15 AM
Great videos. I enjoy how in depth you go on the various subjects that many tanks typically don't think about. It's refreshing to see how much attention you pay to those sort of details.

The Lost sound threw me off track, though, ha!

I am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the kind words.



I updated the original post with a new video. 4.0 Protection Warrior Guide Tank Priorities part 2!

Enjoy.

joostnl
10-20-2010, 01:14 PM
Fantastic vids! Im using your UI right now and i love it.. The only thing i diddn't heard you talk about. Is the Spel Devastate/Sunder armor? How do you think about them in your rotation?

Kazeyonoma
10-20-2010, 01:50 PM
Why is this in the HALP section? this looks like a pretty decent guide, I can move it to the Critical Guides section or the Theory section if you would like.

Ropetown
10-20-2010, 02:54 PM
Yeah, sure. I guess the guide section would make more sense, heh.

Thanks.

Kitinan
10-20-2010, 04:36 PM
These videos are awesome. I am a new tank, been 80 for a few days, so I am looking forward to anymore that you have. =D

Mior
10-21-2010, 02:34 AM
Would it be possible to include names of the songs you use as background music?

This to prevent annoying people like myself emailing you about them.

Icebreaker
10-21-2010, 07:05 AM
Waiting for the LK fight vid impatiently. You're my favourite clip maker so far.

Bodasafa
10-21-2010, 09:56 AM
I have a question about how you are making your videos. What do you use for in game video capture and what are you using for sound? Is there an editing program required? I'm looking for free tools if possible.

Basically I'm looking to do some short videos about my UI to help people get it set up. Also if you have any suggestions for my UI since your a fellow creator, comments would be welcome. Link is in my sig.

Banterloft
10-21-2010, 10:32 AM
~Off topic~

Boda, have you had any luck with KGPanels. I run a version of your UI with quiet a few personal tweaks but I cannot get KGPanels to work correctly.

Bodasafa
10-21-2010, 11:28 AM
~Off topic~

Boda, have you had any luck with KGPanels. I run a version of your UI with quiet a few personal tweaks but I cannot get KGPanels to work correctly.

Update it. There have been several since the patch. The 2nd to last one broke it a bit, but the most recent fixed it. My panels work just fine. Also this would be better in my UI thread as not to derail.

Ropetown
10-22-2010, 02:35 AM
I have a question about how you are making your videos. What do you use for in game video capture and what are you using for sound? Is there an editing program required? I'm looking for free tools if possible.

Basically I'm looking to do some short videos about my UI to help people get it set up. Also if you have any suggestions for my UI since your a fellow creator, comments would be welcome. Link is in my sig.

I use Fraps to capture video.
Audacity for the voice over.
and Sony Vegas to edit.

Audacity is free, Sony Vegas and Fraps not so much. There is some free editing software around or you could just use windows movie maker I suppose. Fraps is worth the money.

Ropetown
10-23-2010, 08:30 AM
Added part 3 to Tank Priorities, HLK.

joostnl
10-29-2010, 02:23 AM
I love your UI! But can you update it with your buffbars?

Ropetown
10-31-2010, 11:59 AM
Due to popular demand, I added a keybind segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGc-xSdNrY&hd=1

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyIvdi6OksA&hd=1)