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goose
07-28-2010, 12:26 PM
Ok I got resonable gear and and follow the suggested rotations and the recommended specs yet i still cant seem to get more the 5k dps in ICC 10 not sure if i need to change something or if my comp is just slow or what any advice would be appreciated.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Goos%C3%A9

pallyboi
07-28-2010, 05:11 PM
There is No set rotation for Retribution. If you want you can use a priority system called FCFS, or First Come First Serve. In this system, your priority is Judgement>Crusader strike>Divine Storm>Holy Wrath>and Consecration
Also you might want to take talents out of "Eye for An Eye" "Vindication" And "Divine Purpose" those arent necessary for raiding unless your raid asks for Vindication.
Last you might want to change your glyphs to Judgement, seal of corruption, and Consecration.
Hope this helps ;)

goose
07-28-2010, 11:02 PM
i use the FCFS with the same priority as you have listed just not sure what else i could do. I will look at changing the glyphs next time i log on. Thanks

Paranoid
07-29-2010, 01:39 AM
There are quite few things you can improve either gear, rotation and seals.

Ever read about retridin guides on elitistjerks?
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All below said things found at
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t91132-paladin_faq_all_our_roles_how_play_them/
look for the #2 post.
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Heres basic three simple things.
If you dont have T9 set bonuses or T10 ones..
Your priory use on abilityes is: Crusader Strike > ( Hammer of Wrath ) > Judgement > Divine Storm > Consecration > Exorcism > ( Holy Wrath )
Talent specc would go around this. http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sVZVZVfbtbIuhdIfsu:0oGmc0
Rest 6 talents are used on the basic needs on "guild needs?", I generally go for Guardian's Favor, Vindication and Divine Purposes.. But you can pick aura mastery or some others as what is needed.

Glyphs would be:
-Glyph of Judgement (this is for 100% surety you should have)
-Glyph of Consecration (if I remember correctly this saves up to +100mp5)
-Glyph of Seal of Vengeance (for more expertise but.. if you have without this 24 expertise then choose the Exorcism it boosts roughtly +50-100dps)
Optional: Glyph of Exorcism (this is far less usefull compaired to +10 expertise gained from Vengeance Glyph but like said if you got 24 witout it)

Then about seals, if your able to attack 2 or more targets use Seal of Command, if your target is not going to survive more than 15sec then Seal of Righteousness. But in other case Seal of Vengeance is your basic seal for raid boss fights.

You got quite alot of because of the trinket (using that cooldown ofter as possible?) you'v got 364 hit so the "max" that would be enought is 263 and expertise 24 is enought and you'v got 31. This also means that at the moment you wont be needing seal of vengeance glyph. So you can afford to lose bit of those on future gearing.

Back on gemming im not saying replace your current gems now, but there is another rule of gemming also. If its a red (or blue thought nightmares tear is nice to use blue one if huge str bonus given) socket use Bold(+20str) one, but if the socket bonus is 4 str or more str of the cost of one yellow socket then use Inscribed(+10str +10crit rating) ones.

calcifer643
08-25-2010, 05:55 PM
i just wanted to ask a question im a ret paladin and in 10 ICC reg i do on average 11k DPS is this good bad or ok i have a 5.6k gs and i wanted to know if i should be doing more DPS or what

Grannos
08-26-2010, 05:28 AM
i just wanted to ask a question im a ret paladin and in 10 ICC reg i do on average 11k DPS is this good bad or ok i have a 5.6k gs and i wanted to know if i should be doing more DPS or what

Hmm, sounds pretty low to me....KIDDING... Don't get so hung up on DPS. Where do you stand on overall damage over the full duration of the fight? If noone in your raid group is complaining about your DPS, then I would not worry about it too much.

Really, I fail to understand all these "Hows my DPS" threads. If your raiding any 10 or 25 man ICC content on a regular basis, then you "SHOULD" have a pretty good idea on what your class should be doing, with the gear you have, and your ability to play.

Timberton
08-26-2010, 05:47 AM
If your raiding any 10 or 25 man ICC content on a regular basis, then you "SHOULD" have a pretty good idea on what your class should be doing, with the gear you have, and your ability to play.

I'll throw my "lol" here, I've pugged icc 10 a few times (mostly semi guild runs lacking some dps and recruiting in /2), and on more than 1 occasion the damage done ranking would be:

me(rogue)...|-----------------| (20+% of dmg)
dps 1,........|--------|
dps 2.........|--------|
dps 3.........|-------|
tank1.........|-------|
dps 4.........|------|
tank2.........|------|
dps 5.........|---|

E-peen score being in good range for ICC raiding and all. Needless to say those raid lockouts were wasted...QQ

swollenpickles
08-30-2010, 06:32 PM
i just wanted to ask a question im a ret paladin and in 10 ICC reg i do on average 11k DPS is this good bad or ok i have a 5.6k gs and i wanted to know if i should be doing more DPS or what

11k single target on a boss? or 11k for the run (including all the very very AoE friendly trash)? It's not uncommon to see ret pallys blow up the meters on the trash leading to marrowgar for example (thanks to divine storm, consecration and the seal of whackwhatever etc) and then totally stink it up on the boss. I've been in raids where ret pallys have topped the damage charts for the total run, but slipped well down if you looked at the individual boss fights.

sardaukarz
09-10-2010, 11:06 AM
goosé : bad enchants, bad gems, bad spec.
go read elitistjerks and u should have all answers to your question.

Goros
09-10-2010, 12:12 PM
I run regularly with a ret pally that totally ignores the EJ FCFS list, is a clicker, and tops the dps charts on bossfights he has no business being on top of. Amazing player (and guildy). Trash he tops the charts also, but who cares about trash? If he doesn't pull at least 11k on every bossfight he cries like a little girl about it.

Here's set of parses from a 25 man last month that we have on WoL - http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?enc=bosses.

Here's the breakdown on H Marrowgar - 14.5k http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?s=1377&e=1606
Deathwhisper - 11.9k http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?s=2095&e=2275
Saurfang - 13.8k http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?s=3461&e=3623
H Rotface - 13.1k http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?s=4500&e=4805
Fester - 13.7k http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v4ywue7h2gns43p8/analyze/dd/source/?s=5761&e=5973

Here's his armory http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&cn=Jabooty