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Tayschren
01-21-2010, 12:14 PM
Last night we attempted Blood Queen a few times. During a ninja log, I decided to go try an unholy tanking spec for the shadow damage mitigation. Looking at the parses from last night, blood takes a good bit less damage.

Blood:
WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay (http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/11409988#damagetaken)

Unholy:
WoW Meters Online - Combatlog Replay (http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/11409990#damagetaken)

It seems strange to me, can anyone shed some light on this?

Proletaria
01-21-2010, 06:28 PM
Bone-shield up-time is going to be abyssmal here. Blood all the way.

dr_AllCOM3
01-21-2010, 07:57 PM
You took 111% of the main tanks damage as Blood and 103% of the maintanks damage as Unholy. Not strange at all.
You can't just compare numbers from a wipe, that's not how you read a combat log.

Tayschren
01-21-2010, 11:06 PM
You took 111% of the main tanks damage as Blood and 103% of the maintanks damage as Unholy. Not strange at all.
You can't just compare numbers from a wipe, that's not how you read a combat log.

Where did you find that? I was looking at buff uptime and mitigation numbers to try and find something like that lol

Mukluk
01-22-2010, 12:31 PM
blood mirror doesnt use up bone shield charges, i was OT on 25man lanathel (im unholy dk tank) today and best attempt got her to 14%, bone shield never fell off.

Knoxious
01-22-2010, 03:31 PM
Offtank mitigation has no effect on how much damage you take from Blood Mirror. The damage the offtank takes is exactly equal to the amount of damage the main tank takes. The offtank can have every possible absorbtion mitigation ability in the game and they are still going to take the exact amount of damage the main tank takes. The best offtank is going to be the one with the most health which is, most of the time, Blood.

jaylebate
01-24-2010, 08:44 AM
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/obkgzzulsfnwe3ya/log/?enc=bosses&boss=37955
[{"spellNames": ["Blood Mirror"]}, {"spellNames": ["Anti-Magic Shell"]}, {"spellNames": ["Icebound Fortitude"]}, {"eventTypes": [1], "targetNames": ["Tankadyn"]}]


[22:48:28.911] Mafire gains Icebound Fortitude from Mafire
[22:48:28.911] Mafire casts Icebound Fortitude
[22:48:30.415] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2903 (R: 900)
[22:48:30.805] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 2903
[22:48:32.397] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 3267 (R: 450)
[22:48:32.842] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 3267
[22:48:33.537] Blood-Queen Lana'thel hits Tankadyn 13414 (B: 1860)
[22:48:33.987] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 13414
[22:48:34.424] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2903 (R: 900)
[22:48:34.785] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 2903
[22:48:35.960] Blood-Queen Lana'thel hits Tankadyn 11840 (B: 1860)
[22:48:36.421] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 11840
[22:48:36.436] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2540 (R: 1350)
[22:48:36.811] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 2540
[22:48:38.449] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2540 (R: 1350)
[22:48:38.857] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 2540
[22:48:40.415] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 3266 (R: 450)
[22:48:40.821] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 3266
[22:48:40.956] Mafire's Icebound Fortitude fades This shows that tanking stance does nothing for me. Ice bound's % reduction does nothing for me, on blood mirror, still good for slashes.


[23:25:11.982] Mafire gains Anti-Magic Shell from Mafire
[23:25:12.000] Mafire casts Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:12.815] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2903 (R: 900)
[23:25:13.196] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 726 (A: 2177)
[23:25:13.961] Mafire gains 27 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:13.961] Mafire Bloodbolt Splash Tankadyn 5444 (R: 1688)
[23:25:14.387] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 1361 (A: 4083)
[23:25:14.813] Mafire gains 81 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:14.813] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 3266 (R: 450)
[23:25:15.192] Mafire gains 60 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:15.193] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 817 (A: 2449)
[23:25:15.603] Mafire Bloodbolt Splash Tankadyn 5347 (R: 1658)
[23:25:15.957] Mafire gains 31 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:15.957] Mafire gains 41 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:15.957] Tankadyn Blood Mirror Mafire 1337 (A: 4010)
[23:25:16.791] Mafire gains 58 runic power from Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell
[23:25:16.791] Blood-Queen Lana'thel Shroud of Sorrow Tankadyn 2540 (R: 1350)
[23:25:17.001] Mafire's Anti-Magic Shell fades She targets the off tank with blood bolt and can splash to the main tank ... so stay 6 yards out.
Anti magic shell does reduce the damage.

[edit] I was in a blood tanking spec. I assume Bone Shield would not work because it is % based, however unholy does have increased damage absorption on AMS and AMZ. I am guessing they are absorbing because they are "up to 50% of DK's health" and are not true flat percent.

I was looking for a thread comparing DPS; since unholy has pets, was wondering if blood would do more damage.

swelt
01-25-2010, 06:43 AM
Given what we know then about the mechanics of Blood Mirror, is there any reason to even use tank spec/gear/stance? I'm just wondering what the minimum requirements are. Do you need to remain uncritable for the slash attack? "Optimal" might end up being something like an unholy DPS spec that picks up AMZ for utility, or a blood spec with imp blood presence for the bonus healing?

Tayschren
01-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Yeah, AMZ is kind of nice to have when you are in transition between flight and ground phases. AMS also blocks the fear effects from Bloodqueen if you hit it while she runs to the center, which is a nice bonus.

GravityDK
01-27-2010, 06:25 PM
Nice to see a use for Unholy tanking (AMZ). :P

Blbstein
01-28-2010, 06:39 AM
I create a build for this boss..total dmg reduction is 39% (with frost presence, Blood runes on CD and Bone shield up) but you havent Vampiric blood this is disadvantage this build..
What do you think about? is this better than http://eu.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=6&tal=0055021533303313201020101341305000000000000000 000000000000052300001000000000000000000000
in this encounter?