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Bodasafa
12-18-2009, 11:22 PM
I wanted to make a list of all the relevant tanking weapons with the criteria that they be on live servers and would be available to most active raiders. I excluded Tribute Chest items.

So in No particular order we have:

Crusader's Glory (Heroic) (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47967)
Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810)
Bonebreaking Scepter (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50760)
Burnished Quel'Serrar (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49495)
Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290)
Peacekeeper Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47500)
Rimefang's Claw (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50268)
Titanguard (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45110)
Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45442)
Shiver (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45876)

How to respond:

1) If I have missed any items that should be on the list please let me know.

2) Please reply with a list rating the weapons.

3) Feel free to leave a small note by each if you like describing why you feel its better than the one below it.

General Request:

Please refrain from turning this into a debate thread.

Thanks and have fun. I will be adding my own list once I make sure I haven't missed any.

Aggathon
12-18-2009, 11:27 PM
1) Crusader's Glory (Heroic) (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47967) Most EHP, the armor is smexy
2) Burnished Quel'Serrar (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49495) Overall Calculations show that it ends up being more EHP than shiver or Sorthalis, IMO
3) Shiver (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45876) Most EHP next to sorthalis
4) Bonebreaking Scepter (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50760) (though very close to BQS/Shiver) Probably enough stats to justify it over Sorthlis, but tbh 3,4, and 5 area all really close imo
5) Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45442) (though I might be willing to trade this and #5, again it's close)
6) Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810) again, armor = hot
7) Peacekeeper Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47500) socket makes it better than rimfang
8) Rimefang's Claw (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50268) stats are slightly better than titanguard
9) Titanguard (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45110) I rate this better than Falric's because I think the stats are better than block
10) Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290) Really good for an anub add tanking set, but that's the only situation where this weapon becomes better than any of the previous ones imo.

mistersix
12-19-2009, 11:41 AM
1) Crusader's Glory (Heroic) (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47967)
2) Burnished Quel'Serrar (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49495)
3) Bonebreaking Scepter (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50760) (though very close to BQS)
4) Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45442) (though I might be willing to trade this and #5, again it's close)
5) Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810)
6) Peacekeeper Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47500)
7) Rimefang's Claw (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50268)
8) Titanguard (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45110)
9) Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290)




Shiver (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45876)

I'd be interested in your whys actually.

Boda you've missed Honor of the Fallen - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48714) in it's heroic and non-heroic flavors.

Suicyco
12-19-2009, 12:02 PM
Lol... Aggathon and I just had epic debatage on BQS .. but I'm going to say Troggbane, Axe of the Frostborne King - Items - Sigrie (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/51947/troggbane-axe-of-the-frostborne-king/)
FTW!!! throw the rest away and tank with no weapon cause nothing is worthy until we equip that beast.

Suicyco
12-19-2009, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE=Aggathon;341085]1) Crusader's Glory (Heroic) (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47967)
2) Burnished Quel'Serrar (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49495)
3) Bonebreaking Scepter (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50760) (though very close to BQS)
4) Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45442) (though I might be willing to trade this and #5, again it's close)
5) Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810)
6) Peacekeeper Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47500)
7) Rimefang's Claw (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50268)
8) Titanguard (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45110)
9) Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290)

I am interested as a shield class why you would put Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290) on the bottom when stat wise for shield tanking its better than Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810)
with the slightly higher parry percentage making it almost comparable avoidance wise to the dodge on Crusader .43% parry vs .48% dodge, and with Block rating, same str, same stam I would think Falric's outweighs Crusader by a bit.

Bodasafa
12-19-2009, 12:20 PM
I'd be interested in your whys actually.

Boda you've missed Honor of the Fallen - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48714) in it's heroic and non-heroic flavors.

No I didn't read the OP, please.


I wanted to make a list of all the relevant tanking weapons with the criteria that they be on live servers and would be available to most active raiders. I excluded Tribute Chest items.

Bodasafa
12-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Lol... Aggathon and I just had epic debatage on BQS .. but I'm going to say Troggbane, Axe of the Frostborne King - Items - Sigrie (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/51947/troggbane-axe-of-the-frostborne-king/)
FTW!!! throw the rest away and tank with no weapon cause nothing is worthy until we equip that beast.

Again read the Original Post, please.


I wanted to make a list of all the relevant tanking weapons with the criteria that they be on live servers and would be available to most active raiders. I excluded Tribute Chest items.

Bodasafa
12-19-2009, 12:23 PM
I am interested as a shield class why you would put Falric's Wrist-Chopper (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50290) on the bottom when stat wise for shield tanking its better than Crusaders Glory (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47810)
with the slightly higher parry percentage making it almost comparable avoidance wise to the dodge on Crusader .43% parry vs .48% dodge, and with Block rating, same str, same stam I would think Falric's outweighs Crusader by a bit.

Not if you like armor.

Suicyco
12-19-2009, 12:38 PM
Not if you like armor.

Chuckle not gonna go into the amount of soak you recieve from 450 armor lets just say that BQS at 100 up time giving 1550 armor on emalon only soaked an average of 350 damage per hit there's a whole thread using Agg's log on his Emalon fight to show it. 1 just 1 xtra block with an average BV of 3K = a helluva lot more EH than the return on 450 armor.

mistersix
12-19-2009, 01:04 PM
Apologies, Boda. Must've slipped without the second cup of coffee. That said the bolding you're doing in the replies certainly would've got my eye in the op.

Bodasafa
12-19-2009, 03:50 PM
Apologies, Boda. Must've slipped without the second cup of coffee. That said the bolding you're doing in the replies certainly would've got my eye in the op.

Your fine, thanks for the suggestion. I edited the OP to highlight those points in bold and add in a general request.

Aggathon
12-19-2009, 03:51 PM
I updated my list with notes, I also realized I accidentally dropped shiver off the list, lol. I was kinda tired last night =/ Hopefully that gets the thread back on track a little bit! I actually think it's a good and meaningful thread, a lot of threads only list like BiS or easiest to get, or something, but they don't really give a good comparison between them all. If you want later tonight I can do a much more extensive breakdown, that list is really just sort of my initial gut reactions to the weapons.

Bodasafa
12-19-2009, 03:57 PM
I updated my list with notes, I also realized I accidentally dropped shiver off the list, lol. I was kinda tired last night =/ Hopefully that gets the thread back on track a little bit! I actually think it's a good and meaningful thread, a lot of threads only list like BiS or easiest to get, or something, but they don't really give a good comparison between them all. If you want later tonight I can do a much more extensive breakdown, that list is really just sort of my initial cut reactions to the weapons.

Thanks.