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Carterhova
12-16-2009, 01:22 PM
Hey all. DK DW Frost Tank here trying to figure out how to get a little bit of an edge for upgrades and have a few questions about tank gearing.

I have tanking experience with all raids including ICC10m cleared and ICC25m 1st boss (pug). With the new inclusion of the -20% Dodge for ICC now this is really hurting a lot of tanks not taking a lot of dmg. Been thinking about stacking full stam but that leaves me with 9%dodge 21%parry in ICC.

I know that if you don't have enough health your not always going to survive a hit as this level of content. Because no matter how much dodge/parry you have you will be hit eventually.

Trying to decide if I should stack stam with my gems/enchants and go +dodge trinkets so I can start pushing over 10% dodge in ICC.

Also trying to decide if I should try and get as much items with + Armor on it. So I can reduce the dmg I am taking when I am not dodging/parrying.

If you see any issues with gear, spec or anything that I am doing wrong please let me know.

Upgrades for ICC Top 3:
1. Sentinel's Winter Cloak (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50466/sentinels-winter-cloak/)
2. Verdigris Chain Belt (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50991/verdigris-chain-belt/)
3. Corroded Skeleton Key (http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50356/corroded-skeleton-key/)

Link to my character sheet on WoW Armory:
The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Carterhova)

Roughly Unbuffed Stats ICC Affected:
34k HP
28-29k Armor ~ 65.x+%
9-10% Dodge
20% Parry

Wilhem
12-16-2009, 10:43 PM
Sorry, you logged out in your DPS gear, can you log out in your tanking spec? :)

Carterhova
12-17-2009, 01:30 PM
Sorry about that. In my tank set/spec now.

Harmacy
12-17-2009, 02:31 PM
You're still in your DPS gear, but that's OK I just looked you up on wow-heroes.com (which saves your offspec gear from when you did log off in it).

First of all, you're dual-wielding fast weapons. It's possible to hold threat with fast weapons, but very very difficult - I wouldn't recommend it. If you hold single-target, great keep everything as is, but if you have threat problems, you need to switch.

Also, Eitrigg's Oath is crap. Avoidance trinkets are bad enough compared to stamina/armor (with a handful of exceptions), but that trinket also has a useless cooldown that takes wayy too long to get to its full effect. What other trinkets are available to you? Because even something like the Black Heart would be superior, in my opinion.

Your other trinket (the Glyph) is fantastic though. I love mine.

The dodge debuff really has little to do with gearing strategies. You still should be stacking stamina and mitigation (armor).

Carterhova
12-17-2009, 03:58 PM
Well I have two different tanking DW weapon sets:

The Rimefang's Claw x2 (5m ICC H) for more mitigation with dodge/parry since I am easily past the 540 def cap and past expertise cap.

Also have the Blackhorn Bludgeon x2 (10m ToC) for more threat if i ever need it. Lately though I have never had any trouble keeping agro off anyone. But I do keep them in my bag if anyone does get close and can swap mid fight to get some more tps during RS.

Well 90% of my stacking has been stamina in the past, but with the -20%dodge with ICC I thought about maybe trying to stack some more dodge with trinkets if possible.

Available Trinkets:
Glyph of Indomitability
Eiltrigg's Oath (10normal)
Brawler's Souvenir
Bubbling Brightbrew Charm
Bitter Balebrew Charm
Purified Onyxia Blood Talisman