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Darkscourge
12-15-2009, 04:31 AM
Hey guys. I need a bit of feedback on my mates tank. He's been struggling a fair bit lately, the mobs in phase one of the lady ICC being the new thing. id like to give him some pointers, not knowing anything about playing a pally id thought i would hit up tankspot.

this is his toon anyway
The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=%C3%98%C3%BDeah)

i was not sure what to tell him about his new ring from icc25, harbingers bone band. a quick calculation told me that clutch of fortification was better but i may be wrong. what do you all think?

Ok, on to my toon. Im not having any problems atm besides ive been getting whispered alot by other tanks in pug raids telling me i shouldn't be gemming for hit or exp and just to stack stam. It kinda rattled my cage the other day when listening to a podcast on this site when the guy said he thinks gemming for hit was wrong. Could i be pushing more out of my guy by doing this and stacking all stamina (keep in mind, up untill i got my new 2h i had 5hit gems in to keep it at cap)

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Barthilas&n=Darkscourge)

Harmacy
12-15-2009, 05:10 AM
Your friend made some major mistakes in his spec and glyphs. Go 53/18 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZV0tAbuMusIufdxfMobc:pG), going deep enough in ret for Crusade. Benediction is worthless as no prot pally will ever have mana issues in a raid, Divinity is... well I wouldn't say worthless but definitely not worth the talent points, and you only need 1/2 Spiritual Attunement to keep your mana bar full. Also important is the Divine Plea glyph - since Divine Plea is up 100% of the time, it's a permanent 3% damage reduction, very nice.

As far as gear, his gems are all over the place. I see stamina (good), dodge (OK I guess), crit (wtf?)... Stack stamina. I would extend that to include stamina trinkets - both the Onyxia trinket and Eitrigg's Oath are extremely weak (save Onyxia for an avoidance or block set - Eitrigg's is basically a paperweight, maybe you could play horseshoes with it).

For you - your gear, gems, and enchants all make sense. Spec is very weird though - you skipped key talents like Annihilation and Rime, and picked up a bunch of useless ones like Lichborne, Vicious Strikes, 1/3 Acclimation, Hungering Cold, and Icy Talons. (I can understand speccing Imp Icy Talons as a raid buff if needed, even though it doesn't directly benefit the raid much, but speccing into Icy Talons but not Imp Icy Talons I don't understand).

Use something along these (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0EMZhxx0AbIof0buzAo0x) lines instead. (the last three points are up to you, this is just the cookie-cutter 2h frost spec)

As far as hit and expertise gems - if you need them to maintain good threat, then do it. If your threat is fine, but you're just gemming hit/exp to maintain a cap - stop it. The expertise and hit caps are nowhere near the same category as the defense minimum, and should not be treated as such - you only need enough threat stats to maintain good threat.