View Full Version : Warrior dps/tanking issues

11-30-2009, 02:43 AM
Hey guys...was wondering if I could get a little help with some issues I am having in both the dps side and prot side.

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drak%27Tharon&n=Dabigslow)


I do well to hit 4k in a 25 man...and I know this is not right. I am missing something because my gear should allow me more. Some people say stack armor pen...I have been just going straight strength. Which would do me more in upping my dps and why? I am just trying to figure out what I am doing wrong because with the sword upgrade and all of that, 4k shouldn't be hard. I hear folks talk about rage dumping...?? I basically open with rend/MS/Slam (while waiting for overpower to trigger up) then Overpower. After that its whack a mole. No real set thing. I rarely watch rage...and when execute lights up I hit it as long as I am above 65 rage (only time I care to check it). Is there a method or something people use when they get high rage? All tips appreciated.

Tanking --

I feel squishy. I buff out to 43k...with 24k armor and avoidances are good (24%D, 19%P, 22%Blck). I talked to a paladin who said he was running almost 100% unhittability and he linked me a macro. I put it in and got it to work...and was at 72%. I asked some people who said that block was the way to go because Dodge had deminishing returns....and to trade hits for it. I am at 546 defense...but notice that adding more ups all my avoidances. I am basically just trying to be more survivable as the offtank for 10 man totc/ony/voa. If someone can take the time to post what warrior tanks need...and things to do to be more tankish I listen well.

11-30-2009, 04:14 AM
Your under the hit cap which is 8%. Your spec is not optimal and you need to get Sword Specialization by dropping improved hamstring and probably improved execute. You should also replace your Sweeping Strikes glyph with the Rending glyph. I'm no arms expert but I think you guys mostly rage dump with Slam on free globals cooldowns.

Unhittable sets are only used for special situations like tanking Anub'arak ads. To be honest Block value and rating isn't any good and your very far from being hit severly by diminishing returns on dodge and parry. Without seeing your tanking gear I'm guessing you need to get some upgrades which are easily obtainable these days (T9 gear, Triumph Emblem head and shoulders etc). Your protection spec is a bit of a mess but this shouldn't really gimp your survivability, just make sure you keep demo shout and thunder clap debufs up on the bosses and if your threath is ok, you could try a survivable spec with Improved Demo Shout.

11-30-2009, 11:41 AM
The comment above is excellent. Change your spec and get the rend glyph. You are a little low on hit and expertise too. These two stats are vital for dps...Don't gem Armor Pen quite yet. Wait till you get more gear with ArP and you have approx 30% from gear alone. Then gem as much Arp as possible. Your tank spec needs work too btw.

11-30-2009, 11:47 AM
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11-30-2009, 05:00 PM
Your actually over the expertise cap already. Arms warriors get 2% expertise from Weapon Mastery so you only need 18 (4.5%).

11-30-2009, 05:18 PM
Looking at your spec for arms, I'd get rid of Anger Management because rage shouldn't be an issue for arms warriors. Try to pick up an Axe and go into Axe Mastery, Dual blade butcher is obviously a good choice. I would also (when you are available) take the points out of Weapon Mastery and finish off Wrecking Crew. When you move into the fury tree, you should take the points out of cleave and put it into commanding presence and your last two points for the other talents and put it into improved Execute.

Also, haste is not a good stat for warriors, you should change your cloak enchant to 22 Agility

Also, you should try to get Grim Toll or the one from Throim 10 hard mode. Then switch to gemming for ArP, you will notice a substantial dps increase.

Your arms glyphs aren't ideal as stated before, Rending, Execution and Mortal Strike are good bets for those spots.

12-01-2009, 11:44 AM
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12-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I'd use this arms build (http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=1&tal=3022032023335100202012213231251325000005000000 000000000000000000000000000000000000000).

Some notes about the build:
* You only need 18 expertise (on your paperdoll; 14 if you subtract the 4 expertise from strength of arms) to be at the soft cap with this build. If you find yourself swimming in expertise, drop one or both points in weapon mastery and get improved execute instead.
* The build currently shows poleaxe specialisation 5/5. Change that to match whatever weapon you are currently using, if you aren't using an axe or polearm.