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Kuraf
10-29-2009, 09:39 AM
I'm needing help in gearing up again.

It's not that common for me to do 25men raids (my old guild disbanded and the new guild just did it's first 25men raid yesterday - Onyxia25) and since the server population is low it's kinda hard to even pug Naxx25... and when it's possible it often ends in really stupid/lame failures.

So right now i'm wondering where should my focus lie on for gearing up.

Armory Link - Fierceblow @ Xavius-EU

Aditional information:
- i'm currently collecting titansteel to craft Spiked Deathdealers.
- i'm considering getting Blades of the Sable Cross


Think i'll use this thread for an additional question... yesterday I saw the "tank ring" drop from Onyxia and even tho it has a nice amount of stamina (i would still lose some) I didn't go for it.
Is the ring worth it? The high armor value seems nice but the lack of avoidance stats seem to make me doubt it's actual value. Seems like it'll be helpful only in certain situations (due to the wide range of resistances it provides). Any hints on this?

Cheers

Griff
10-29-2009, 10:10 AM
While the stam is nice, the key feature of the tank ring for Onyxia is the armor. The clutch of fortification, but the Ony ring would definitely be worth having for situational encounters.

As for general upgrades: If you can't raid upper levels of content like Ulduar, you need to be looking for crafteds and boe items from Ulduar.

Crafted items:
Breastplate of the White Knight
Indestructable Plate Girdle
Spiked Deathdealers (which you say you're making already)

BoE
The Northern Barrier - a BOE shield from Hodir, would be an upgrade for you, but probably a bit pricey.

Otherwise, a pretty good collection of gear is available with triumph badges so keep doing your dailies.

Kuraf
10-29-2009, 10:50 AM
As for general upgrades: If you can't raid upper levels of content like Ulduar, you need to be looking for crafteds and boe items from Ulduar.


I am able to raid Ulduar/ToC but it will only be 10men (since the guild is still kinda getting ready to go to 25men)...
Pugging 25men instances could prove to be hard but still possible...

What I was expecting from this thread was general guidelines on possible upgrades. My main focus is replacing the cloak (considering Cloak of the Iron Council - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45322) as improvement), rings and the trinket (essence of gossamer). The belt looks like it could use some improvement too...

Current considered upgrades (if i'm called as a tank for today's ToC10):


Greaves of the Lingering Vortex - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47885)
Band of the Twin Val'kyr - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47888)
Aegis of the Coliseum - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47910)
Ardent Guard - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47899)

I'm not much of a fan of avoidance trinkets, thus i'm not considering (furnace stone from ignis 10men).

Any hints would be welcome :)

Aggathon
10-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Boots, pants, rings should be your first priority. Also you linked the wrong shield. I don't think MP5 is going to be an important stat for you =P. Shield does need upgraded though.

Ring - Def. get the Triumph badge ring if possible, it is very good, the ony one is also very solid.

The other suggestions are solid as well.

Edit: Trinket - if you can do 10 man Yogg, there's a trinket there, idk how well you could do normal 25 ToC, but Faction Champs drops Jugg's Vitality, and Iginis 25 for heart of iron. If those aren't availible then I'd say pick up glyph of indominability. or... however it's spelled.

Kuraf
10-29-2009, 11:50 AM
Boots, pants, rings should be your first priority. Also you linked the wrong shield. I don't think MP5 is going to be an important stat for you =P. Shield does need upgraded though.

Ring - Def. get the Triumph badge ring if possible, it is very good, the ony one is also very solid.

The other suggestions are solid as well.

Edit: Trinket - if you can do 10 man Yogg, there's a trinket there, idk how well you could do normal 25 ToC, but Faction Champs drops Jugg's Vitality, and Iginis 25 for heart of iron. If those aren't availible then I'd say pick up glyph of indominability. or... however it's spelled.

Yeah I meant the Aegis of the Coliseum - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47910) (sorry been playing resto shammy since vanilla days - it's hard to get rid of old habits).

Regarding Yogg, i've done him before with my old guild (as healer tho) and the new one has lots of people from the old guild so it may be doable.

Regarding the Clutch of Fortification - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47731) ... should i get it before or after I get the thrown weapon? And which ring should I replace first? (i believe i should replace the signet of the impregnable fortress right?)

Aggathon
10-29-2009, 01:53 PM
Yeah I meant the Aegis of the Coliseum - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47910) (sorry been playing resto shammy since vanilla days - it's hard to get rid of old habits).

Regarding Yogg, i've done him before with my old guild (as healer tho) and the new one has lots of people from the old guild so it may be doable.

Regarding the Clutch of Fortification - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47731) ... should i get it before or after I get the thrown weapon? And which ring should I replace first? (i believe i should replace the signet of the impregnable fortress right?)

Yes to shield.

Ring -> Yes, I would say get it before Sable Cross even though Sable Cross is p. much amazing. Kind of a toss up though. I'd replace Signet first, you're gonna drop a bit of defense so I'd recommend switching your shoulder enchant to 30 stam/15 resil, which I'd say do that anyways.

Kuraf
10-30-2009, 05:26 AM
Yes to shield.

Ring -> Yes, I would say get it before Sable Cross even though Sable Cross is p. much amazing. Kind of a toss up though. I'd replace Signet first, you're gonna drop a bit of defense so I'd recommend switching your shoulder enchant to 30 stam/15 resil, which I'd say do that anyways.

Took your advice regarding the ring. Got to 26 tokens yesterday and i'm still holding onto them to get the ring then. Should finish ToC10 today or tomorrow (raid started late yesterday and since I was on group2, we had some new people - we just cleared up to Twin Valks)... so i'm hoping to get the ring by saturday/sunday tops.

Also got only 1 piece of loot out of the instance (got the neck from jaraxxus).

Already updated the shoulder enchant in order to improve the survivability...