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Dirkloogie
10-29-2009, 08:17 AM
I am trying to get a feel for the point at which you can transition into the ToGC10 raids as a tank. Obviously, you have to have a gearset that is well rounded and high enough EH, but where is that point. We have quite a few PUG leaders that are running GC and I have been told that I am still not even close on gear. I understand that I am still missing key upgrades in the weapon/shield/ranged slot, which are current priority, but why else might I be getting the snub so quickly to tank. (edit) I also have other trinkets, Ony trinket, E Oath) that I can wear for situational tanking.

any halp is obviously appreciated.

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Reev
10-29-2009, 08:36 AM
I completed Beasts on ToGC10 2 nights ago. I felt perfectly well geared to do so. I have pretty close to the same health pool you do, about 2k more armor, and a slight amount of additional avoidance.

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It really comes down to how good the rest of your raid is, and how good you are about using your cooldowns correctly. I really think that being successful at this fight is 20% gearing and 80% execution. You have to have a heal team you trust and who trusts you, and dps who can burn things as fast as they should without dying. I don't know if that 2k armor (plus 1.5k from Quel, to be fair), would mean the difference between failure and success for you, but I'd be willing to give it a shot.

swelt
10-29-2009, 08:44 AM
Keyword: PUG

There is the point at which, in a group of trusted players in all roles you would be capable of surviving Gormokk and Icehowl. You are at that point I'd say, with proper consumable usage. I'm sure you are aware that you have room for upgrades in a few slots.

Then there is the point at which a PUG is going to trust you to tank. They are looking for someone that outgears the fight so that they have a bit less to worry about. To reach that spot, I'd guess you are going to want to be in majority 232/245 gear. Because it's a pug, they probably won't know the difference between a well itemised 226 slot and a crappy 245 slot, but that's how it works.

To fast path you into that, you might consider getting some boots and bracers crafted, if you have the cash (although the boots you could end up replacing very quickly in TOC with Boots of the Lingering Vortex):
Saronite Swordbreakers - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47571)
Plans: Spiked Deathdealers - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45093)

Dirkloogie
10-29-2009, 08:51 AM
Keyword: PUG

There is the point at which, in a group of trusted players in all roles you would be capable of surviving Gormokk and Icehowl. You are at that point I'd say, with proper consumable usage. I'm sure you are aware that you have room for upgrades in a few slots.

Then there is the point at which a PUG is going to trust you to tank. They are looking for someone that outgears the fight so that they have a bit less to worry about. To reach that spot, I'd guess you are going to want to be in majority 232/245 gear. Because it's a pug, they probably won't know the difference between a well itemised 226 slot and a crappy 245 slot, but that's how it works.

To fast path you into that, you might consider getting some boots and bracers crafted, if you have the cash (although the boots you could end up replacing very quickly in TOC with Boots of the Lingering Vortex):
Saronite Swordbreakers - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47571)
Plans: Spiked Deathdealers - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45093)

Thanks... I am aware of the upgrade paths for the few key items, and I have only been back 3 weeks from a 4 month break, so really behind on the Triumph badge purchases.

The cash is a problem, but I think I could swing the SS bracers (edit) since I know it is a long term item due to the overall stats of the itemization.

swelt
10-29-2009, 08:55 AM
The cash is a problem, but I think I could swing the SS belt since I know it is a long term item due to the overall stats of the itemization.

Hopefully you mean the bracers! They will be fine til Icecrown unless you start getting into TOC25 hard, but they are also likely to be expensive as you need 4 Crusader orbs.