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Lyssa
10-19-2009, 09:09 AM
All I've done with my warrior is tank, so I'm a real noob when it comes to picking dps specs and gear/gemming/enchants for raiding. I've recently started tagging along on raids doing DPS and I'd really like to some recommendations/suggestions on gear/gems/etc to get my DPS up.

I haven't raided with the arms spec that I currently have, I just switched to it last night from fury and was only able to pull about 3.5k dps in our raids. Granted my dps'ing guildmates are geared much better than me since I was stuck with the off-spec scraps during our ulduar progression and also healing on my druid but I'd really like to try to improve my dps/damage so I don't always have to get on my healer or give up my raiding spot.

Anyway, please give me any input you can.

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Lyssa)

thanks!
Lyssa

Bashal
10-19-2009, 09:33 AM
You are way overcapped on hit rating, probably from recently being DW Fury?

Ditch the excess hit rating (you only need 8% or 263 hit rating to cap, you probably know that already though as a tank) and put that into strength and reaching the expertise soft cap of 26 instead.

Lyssa
10-19-2009, 10:49 AM
Thanks for the reply!

Yes, I was recently TG DW Fury.

I've seen a lot of posts about armor pen, should I be gemming at all for that?

Bashal
10-19-2009, 11:03 AM
I've seen a lot of posts about armor pen, should I be gemming at all for that?

From what I have read, you don't want to gem for ArPen unless you have (between gear and an ArPen trinket) about 30% ArPen. At that point then gemming for it makes more sense. I'm not sure what your current passive ArPen value is, so you'll have to judge for yourself.

EDIT: You're specced into maces -- and you have a mace, so good on you for speccing into the weapon you have -- but when you get your hands on a decent axe or polearm, poleaxe spec is supposed to be best.

dirt
10-19-2009, 12:27 PM
I play an Arms warrior for my off-spec also, and what Bashal said is true.

Almost all of the Triumph gear for dps has ArP on it, so do alot of the drops you'll get from 5 man ToC, as well as 10/25 ToC raids. As Bashal said, once you can get above 30% from your gear alone, then start gemming for ArP. Until then, I'd gem for STR.

If you are still running Naxx, try to get the Grim Toll or the Banner of Victory from reg 5man ToC. Once you get a better axe or polearm weapon, drop the mace spec for polearm and shift 2 points into Weapon Mastery, this will lower your expertise needed from 26(soft cap) to 18(I think).

Hope that helps.

Lyssa
10-19-2009, 12:46 PM
We run 10-man Ulduar and 10-man ToC, we haven't set foot in Naxx in ages.

I am certainly keeping an eye out for a new pole/axe and then will respec for it. :)

Noob question, where do I see my ArP value? Or is something I just have to calculate based on what's on my gear?

Bashal
10-19-2009, 12:58 PM
We run 10-man Ulduar and 10-man ToC, we haven't set foot in Naxx in ages.

I am certainly keeping an eye out for a new pole/axe and then will respec for it. :)

Noob question, where do I see my ArP value? Or is something I just have to calculate based on what's on my gear?


One of the stats in your paperdoll, when you mouse over it, also lists your ArPen value and the %ignore. I don't remember which one it is offhand, sadly.

There is a good axe that drops off Hodir in Uld10 (Stormedge (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45458)), also a (possibly better) one that drops out of Trial of Champions (5-man) in heroic mode (Edge of Ruin (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47493)). Both are ilvl 219, same as the mace you are using now -- except, of course, it will let you go poleaxe spec. ;)

Lyssa
10-19-2009, 01:39 PM
Oh duh, it's over hit rating. My current ArP is 144 (10.29%), looks like I have a ways to go before I hit close to 30%.

I'll have to pick up an Edge of Ruin though. I was holding out for something better out of Ulduar, maybe even ToC. I guess I'll hold off until I regem and see how my DPS is with this spec before I try to upgrade to an axe.

Valalvax
10-19-2009, 01:48 PM
One of the stats in your paperdoll, when you mouse over it, also lists your ArPen value and the %ignore. I don't remember which one it is offhand, sadly.

That would be hit

Lyssa
10-26-2009, 07:38 AM
I've picked up some new gear, moved the 5 points in maces to Poleaxes in my spec and I also dropped my +hit gems for +str.

New gear: Dragonsteel Faceplate (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45299), Spiked Battleguard Choker (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45819), Belt of the Singing Blade (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45824), Armguards of the Nether Lord (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47680), Carnivorous Band (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47578), Mirror of Truth (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40684) and Edge of Ruin (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47493).

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Lyssa)

Any more comments? How are my gems?