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Quinlan
10-02-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm looking for any advice that will help me change from being an OT to MT. I currently have MT all the Heroics and most of Nax 10. I'd prefer not to have to go Blood spec as I tried it a while back and didn't care for it. I am not familiar at all with Unholy. I'm in a casual guild and we prefer 10 mans, so I don't have to be a bleeding edge MT. I am also wondering if i should get IIT as we don't seem to have a shaman in our raids alot of the time. If so what do I change to get it?

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bronzebeard&n=Quinlan)

Griff
10-02-2009, 05:29 PM
Why do you think you're not up to MT status? What does your guild's MT do that you don't do?

Kurtosis
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
I MT blood, OT frost. If I were to MT Frost, here's the build I'd probably use. 13/51/7 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0ERZhxx0AbIof0buzAo0x:awpM0m).

You don't need Icy Reach range talents, the boss should be on you the whole time, and taunt has range if you need to pull boss back. Use those pts for threat or survivability instead.

1pt in Ravenous Dead probably not dead not doing you a whole lot of good.

I either prefer 3/3 Scent of Blood so I can spam Rune Strike, Frost Strike, and still have IBF up when I need it. Or 1/3 SoB and 2/2 Epicemic for longer diseases. I'd have to experiment w/ that. (On my OT build, I use Glyph of HB to spread FF, and don't bother with Blood Plague, so I go 3/3 SoB for FS/RS spam).

On my current blood MT build I like Glyph of Disease since it lets me reapply diseases with one rune and GCD, instead of 2 runes and 2 GCDs (or 3 each if I need to spread disease to adds). Some good tanks don't use that though.

As of patch 3.2.2 Unbreakable Armor is now a more MT-worthy cd. Increases 25k armor to about ~31250, and the glyph makes that ~33500, so I glyphed it for min/max reasons. If you need to swap a little survivability for more threat, replace that glyph w/ Frost Strike glyph.

Quinlan
10-03-2009, 02:05 PM
Hes not doing realy anything more than I am other than his gear is a little better therefore has better stam and threat. I'm thinking that since we dont have a shaman in our raids alot of time that maybe i change my spec to look like this.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0xrZhxxxAbIkc0buzAo0g:awpM0m)

Kurtosis
10-03-2009, 03:10 PM
If you really need IIT, try this 10/54/5+2 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0EZhxxxAbIzc0buzAo0x:awpM0m) build instead. Eg, keep Bladed Armor, give up other things to get IIT. W/ 25k armor, 5/5 BA gives you an extra ~700AP that buffs your strikes, autoattacks, spells, and even diseases. It's one of our most significant threat talents.

The 2pts left over you can put 2/3 SoB if you need more RP, 2/2 2H Weapon Spec if you need more single target threat (scales especially well w/ Icy Talons and IIT), 2/2 Epidemic, or 2/2 Merciless Combat. Experiment w/ that and see which works best.