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Lugor
08-30-2009, 07:50 PM
Since the latest patch (3.2), I've seen devastate become far more useful to use than revenge.

Is the new priority with limitless rage now devastate, and only use revenge for the low rage/stun situations?

Also, is the utility provided by the improved revenge stun worth the 2 talent points?

Additionally, if devastate is now the second highest priority behind shield slam, then does it make sense to spend 1 to 3 points in puncture to lower the rage cost of devastate?

Wars
08-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Revenge is still your second priority in your rotation behind shield slam. Devastate hits much harder now but revenge still is better to burn when it is up(every CD).

If you're doing a lot of heroics/5mans then you will see some use out of revenge's stun, but the damage is why you put the points in there.

donthoto
08-30-2009, 08:46 PM
Veneretio recommends 5/5 Shield Specialization post 3.2 at the cost of Imp Revenge. Check out The 2 Specs Im running as of 3.2 + 1 Im not - Warriors - TankingTips.com (http://www.tankingtips.com/2009/08/16/the-2-specs-im-running-as-of-32-1-im-not/)

In addition I would consider Glyph of Devastate. Check out Porcells post here: http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f14/53864-3-2-threat-values-devastate.html

Bodasafa
08-30-2009, 08:47 PM
Is the new priority with limitless rage now devastate, and only use revenge for the low rage/stun situations?

No revenge is still #2 behind Shield Slam as the above poster stated.


Also, is the utility provided by the improved revenge stun worth the 2 talent points?

The real benefit of this talent is the increased damage to revenge (+20% w/2 points.), not so much the stun effect.


Additionally, if devastate is now the second highest priority behind shield slam, then does it make sense to spend 1 to 3 points in puncture to lower the rage cost of devastate?

If you already have Focused Rage in your talents then no and even if you don't the answer is still probably no. With the amount of damage you take as a tank your rage bar should be full almost all the time. The only situations it wont are in heroics with really good gear. But with the newly added rage on avoidance that should help some.

In any event you will never be so rage starved you cant pull off a Devastate, even with out Puncture or Focused Rage.

Hope that helped,
-Boda