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07-09-2009, 07:17 AM
hi guys i have problems with my mage in dps im arcane frost

armory:The World of Warcraft Armory (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Soulofmage)

my talent:The World of Warcraft Armory (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Soulofmage&group=1)

rutation: (3) arcane blast then arcane barrage or arcane missils

my dps like 3k 2900 i want answer to slove this problem


07-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Read rules.

Wrong forum.


07-09-2009, 09:59 AM
A large part of your DPS problem is being frost spec to begin with. It's only really useful for General Vezax hard mode due to its mana efficiency and the large boost to damage from the crash sites. 3.2 is going to add nothing but more utility to frost, so there is no help coming. You will get MORTAL FROSTBOLT, though (wtf).

Arcane is also near the bottom of the pile for damage output right now. Most raid mages are dualspec frostfire and fireball until they get to Vezax hard mode at which point they grab frost as an offspec. In any case, since you have a bunch of Naxx gear and some Ulduar, I am going to assume you want to DPS in raids.

I'll go over your frost spec, but I am not going to bother with arcane since it's pointless right now.

Items with MP5 = no.

Haste is a decent stat for frost mages but you focus more on pure spellpower. Socket bonuses are generally not worth it on mage gear.

Kill Cyanigosa until you get the Azure Cloth Bindings

Frost Spec:
You are missing a major glyph and two minors. You don't have the Frostbolt glyph! Ice Lance looks like a good glyph, but if you are using Ice Lance in a raid, you are losing DPS. Your majors should be Frostbolt, Molten Armour, Water Elemental.

Why do you have incineration? None of the spells that it affects are things you should be using normally. Those are wasted points.

You don't look like someone who does PvP based on 3400 lifetime kills. Why in hell would you take Deep Freeze? Shattered Barrier is similarly wasted in a raid since if raid mobs are hitting you, your ice barrier is not going to keep you from dying.

Frostbite doesn't work on bosses anymore, and no matter how awesome your DPS is as a caster, the melee will own you on trash. Don't waste points there. Frozen Core is marginally useful but only against AoE damage encounters put out. Not quite wasted points but close. Permafrost is only useful in a raid if your AoE tanks suck and even then only on trash, which is not something you should worry about. You want at most 1 point in Improved Blizzard so that Fingers of Frost will proc off your Blizzards. You should not be using Cone of Cold in raids (again trash, whatever) so why talent for it?

You don't have Arctic Reach. Longer spell range = less moving = more DPS.

You don't have Cold as Ice. Why? Water Elemental is part of your overall damage, and having Cold Snap cool down faster means you get IV that much faster, or even an extra cast of IV/Elemental in a fight. You should have this.

The basic Frost talent load for raiding is 0/0/52: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#oZZVccckfu0fzgfsx)

You might wonder why Ice Floes isn't there. It's a good talent, but reducing its cooldown by 10% means it is out of sync with Cold as Ice and Water Elemental Glyph. You can take it, but it's not optimal.

You now have 19 points to spend on other things. Anything that gets you to Torment the Weak and Focus Magic will be your best frost DPS. Arcane Concentration is good to have for mana efficiency.

Really, though, you should just spec frostfire (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#oZfVcbRhIhVubhctbIccoc:LiI0om) and/or fireball (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#of0Vcd0cZ0EcbRhIhVhbhct:LiV0om). Note that Frostfire is the better damage spec until you have about 2000 spellpower and 30% crit unbuffed.

07-09-2009, 10:06 AM
You take the free fireball thing? I thought it was a dps loss. I was under the impression you spam Frostbolt and in lower gear levels you do the Shatter-Combo on the 2nd charge of FoF until Mid-Ulduar where that becomes a DPS loss too so you just spam Frostbolt.

07-09-2009, 10:32 AM
Correct, but that doesn't happen until you have enough haste to get to a 1s GCD. The exception to that is again General Vezax since it's a free cast.

07-09-2009, 11:04 AM
Is Arcane really on the low part of the totem pole for dps? I seem to find myself doing just fine with it. Averaging 4k in 10 mans, and near 5k in 25 mans. Granted I'm in mostly 10 man gear with a couple 25's, but I have heard of Frostfire outpacing Arcane.