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Karlhungus
06-03-2009, 07:09 AM
I knew there'd be a hard mode 25 man shield yet to be discovered...

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/may/bulwarkofalgalon.jpg

Mmm... :D

Satrina
06-03-2009, 07:12 AM
Block rating... MAKE IT STOP

Karlhungus
06-03-2009, 07:18 AM
Block rating... MAKE IT STOP

Yeah, the block rating does seem a little on the naff side, I'd probably still keep my Northern Barrier for threat... but aside from that, it's got some very tasty stats indeed, and a damned nice amount of strength.

Squashed
06-03-2009, 07:22 AM
Can you PLEASE type the stats out here, I can't get to mmo-champ!

Thanks

Hamburglar
06-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Hodir 10 hard mode shield is better. :(

That shield is Wall of Terror with a blue socket. What really is annoying is they didn't even take the time to design a new model. Talk about lazy.

Snaps
06-03-2009, 07:29 AM
Can you PLEASE type the stats out here, I can't get to mmo-champ!

Thanks

8130 armor
227 block
71 str
96 stam
blue socket (4 def bonus)
38 def
29 dodge
37 sbr


i'm a little disappointed tbh

hbombs
06-03-2009, 07:43 AM
that shield should have looked insane.

Sirq
06-03-2009, 07:47 AM
They'll prolly change the looks.. ( I hope are the words :<)
Some random titan face staring at you whilst prancing around doesn't get me going :X

for a hardmode shield.. meh, what Snaps said

Kazeyonoma
06-03-2009, 09:41 AM
They should totally make it more Algalon like... transparent but solid kinda feel with blue lines everywhere. mmmmm

SquishemHard
06-03-2009, 10:03 AM
When does Blizzard ever do what they should? Especially in a timely manner...
Hey cool there's a shield... I should be salivating and really pissed that I won't actually be killing him for months; but instead I feel like Hodir10 Hardmode shield will hold me over just fine as long as I need(if Hodir ever decides he would like to drop a shield). Out of 2 terrible shield models they had to use the absolute freaking worst, qq.

Inaara
06-03-2009, 10:10 AM
Block rating... MAKE IT STOP


Seriously.............

cen1
06-03-2009, 10:17 AM
yeah the only thing i like about this shield is the strength & blue socket... everything else is meh. /disappointed

loadtoad
06-03-2009, 10:40 AM
Shied is pretty bad and looks even worse. Not worthy of the "bulwark" title.

Meeks
06-03-2009, 10:42 AM
I'd happily take that on my paladin though it would only get better if they loose the block rating.

cen1
06-03-2009, 10:44 AM
Especially for what it takes to get this item compared to the others... I'd say this shield is definitely "Under-Budgeted" ... what's with blizz and the damn SBRating? I agree, strike Bulwark from the title of this pitiful shield.

Lakotamani
06-03-2009, 10:56 AM
If i remember correctly, GC said something a few weeks ago about them looking to change block. Maybe in a couple months this shield will actually be a BiS.

Still looks like utter crap. I really like Kazey's idea of a translucent shield.

Eetabeetay
06-03-2009, 11:09 AM
You get 20 more stam from Boreal Guard, but this shield has higher armor. Has anyone run the numbers to see if this is actually an EH downgrade? For some reason i cant figure out how to add an item into Rawr.

Brutul
06-03-2009, 12:34 PM
I'd be more than happy to wear the lid or one of the sides of his loot chest than that horrible graphic.

cen1
06-03-2009, 12:50 PM
170 AC difference between boreal & bulwark.
The only reason I would take bulwark over boreal is for the dodge rating & strength. Other than that I'd say Boreal is better... with 2 sockets I'd think it has more effective health.

If I had the choice I'd take the Boreal Guard.

Satrina
06-03-2009, 01:18 PM
I'm gonna stick with the Northern Barrier. It's the better all around shield to begin with.

Damonvile
06-03-2009, 04:24 PM
The random item generator they use sucks :P

Arklay
06-03-2009, 06:53 PM
Blizzard itemization team:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3417/3388798495_6d92d025e0.jpg

Rhyseh
06-03-2009, 08:46 PM
This shield is a pretty big slap in the face for any tank who gets this far...

"Hey you just killed the hardest, most prestigous boss in the game! Here's a polished turd!"

Even if I get this I doubt I'll use it....

Mookey
06-04-2009, 01:12 AM
Blizz development team:

First guild is approaching Algalon and we don't have loot table yet!!!
Ok fast... who are guild leaders?
Warrior and Pala
Ok - shield and mace fast fast...
Ok done...
Make sure you add that items for reitemization and reskining for next patch, we can go to coffee now...

Maxrekr
06-04-2009, 02:47 AM
I'm gonna stick with the Northern Barrier. It's the better all around shield to begin with.

No Boreal guard? It is weird when a 10man hard mode shield can give the most progression centred stats out of all the shields.

I hope to see Northern Barrier become BoP and get an iLvl buff but I don't see that happening.

Thundros
06-04-2009, 05:38 AM
in my opinion, it should look kinda like the constellation design of Algalon himself whilst having lightning bolts. For some reason the same texture and color of the Spectral Tiger comes to mind... hope Blizzard has some plan to change it :D

burnout180sx
06-04-2009, 09:00 AM
Yeah not only are the stats off but the shield it self looks horrible. For such a rare boss i would like to see a shield that has appropriate stats and graphics and not just a reused model of a 10man drop.

Hopefully it isn't like the KT shield and gets fixed 5 months later when a completely new tier is in the game.

dagimp007
06-04-2009, 12:39 PM
Blizzard is working on something to make block rating good again instead of a pointless stat... so i bet that is way this end game sheild is like this

and to be honest i dont think blizz expected people to be this far already.

Maxrekr
06-04-2009, 05:39 PM
Hopefully it isn't like the KT shield and gets fixed 5 months later when a completely new tier is in the game.

The KT shield was under budget for a 226 item, the algalon shield appears to be at the correct budget but just itemised badly. It is very unlikely to get a stat buff pushing it into a higher ilvl range but there is always hope it gets a stat reallocation because I don't see block being fixed for a few more months.

Evereghalo
06-07-2009, 11:39 AM
I agree,

I saw the shield and I was not impressed, I was hoping for something great off an algalon drop.

I used the shield off of 25 Patch through all of tier 7, and it looks like I will be shifting between Boreal Guard and Northern Barrier.

I have yet to get 10man hodir hardmode down, my grp didnt feel like wiping this week when we were 20seconds short.

Peronally, I like Northern Barrier for the high Def, so as to gear and gem without having to worry too much about it.

Juon
06-08-2009, 02:37 AM
Soon... we will have a legendary shield... That with sparkling translucent blue uduar skin and smoking Thorim Thunder every few seconds...

Fetzie
06-08-2009, 02:56 AM
The stats are somewhat underwhelming when you see the item level 239. It is, in effect, wall of terror with 24 stamina/41 stamina (depending on where you place your jewelcrafter gems) extra. I thought blizzard didnt want the "every stat+X" on each new tier.

add this to the rather aweful skin, I hope hodir actually relinquishes his chest on wednesday instead of despawning it after becoming immune at 2:59 -.-

Kerg
06-08-2009, 02:31 PM
I would rate this shield slightly better than Boreal Guard, but not by much. Basically a sidegrade. Assuming you put a 24 Stam and 8 Dodge/12 Stam gem in the Guard, you're looking at...

+170 Armor
+32 Strength
-8 Stamina
+7 Defense
+15 Dodge Rating
-37 Parry Rating
+4 Block Rating
+4 Block Value

exiled1994
06-11-2009, 02:25 PM
There's no way that is a Hardmode drop off of Alg...the hardmode thorium one is like 5 times better.

Darksend
06-11-2009, 04:14 PM
There's no way that is a Hardmode drop off of Alg...the hardmode thorium one is like 5 times better.


There are so many things wrong in that sentence I do not even know where to start

1) there is no hard mode algalon.

2) it does drop off algalon

3) picking random numbers are random. 2 sockets vs 1 socket makes a huge difference but not "5 times better"

Xav
06-11-2009, 09:05 PM
I like the Bulwark, it's great. Mostly because Hodir never even dropped the 10 man shield for me.

Sure, it's not perfect, but it's very good.

Rhyseh
06-11-2009, 09:35 PM
I would agree Xav if this didn't drop off Algalon, any other Hard Mode fight and it would be a nice shield, but it really seems pretty lack luster for something that drops off a boss that is so prestigous and hyped by blizz.

I really just expected more from the hard mode only, 60 minute per week boss. They could have at least make it look cool lol.