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jonnyplesko
04-22-2009, 11:36 AM
First off, this is my armory link http://http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blade%27s+Edge&n=Jonnyplesko...

Basically what I am curious about is that I have been reading about people doing 3-4k dps with an 8% hit rating. My toons stats are all similar to what I have been reading in their posts, but my dps is much lower, and my hit rating is much higher. The current link that is there does not show my weapons and also I switched out that hit rating trinket for the old one I had which is the crit trinket from the oracles... I will repost next time my toon is updated... but below are my corrected stats with my weapons and new trinket... I'm only doing 23-2400 dps and I am wondering what advice I may get to bring that up to the 3k mark... (i am currently working on getting the mats for beserker for my weapons, but on my server they are over 1k and i spent all my gold on useless mounts...)

Melee...

Damage - 1365-1608
Speed - 3.28/3.28
Haste - 120 - 3.66%
Power - 3806
Hit - 465 - 14.18%
Crit - 31.93%
Expertise - 259 - +31 - 8.5%/7.75%

Strength - 1296
Agi - 358

You can see all of my gear and I am guessing understand why I feel as though I should be putting out more dps....

As for my cycle... I keep WW and BT on CD at all times... I fill with the instant slam when possible....(which I just respecced for taking the 2 points from Enrage and 1 from Improved Itercept) when thats not up I use cleave or heroic strike....

If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated...

curtisls87
04-22-2009, 11:56 AM
My opinion is that you've got way too much hit, sacrificing other stats. the 8% cap for yellow damage is 164 (assuming you're 3/3), which should be the largest amount of your damage. When you stack this much hit, it helps white damage, but at the expense of other stats that help your yellow damage, which again, should be the great majority of your damage.
A real quick look at your character, I'd trade all those +hit gems for strength or crit, depending on socket and whether it's worth keeping the bonus.

Skyborn
04-22-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm with curtisls87 on this one. I'd say ideal hit rating is somewhere between 205-290 but its really all gear dependent. The higher your crit rating the lower your hit can comfortably go (as your white crits give you more rage to compensate for missing a couple more melee swings). There's a sweet spot that you'll have to figure out for yourself, but for my warrior when he was fury pre3.1 it was about 250 hit.

jonnyplesko
04-22-2009, 12:14 PM
thanks guys im gonna give it a shot and see what happens

Warwench
04-22-2009, 01:34 PM
concur with above. You are way high on hit and low on Crit. I'd swap out all those hit gems for Crit.

Daigeil
04-22-2009, 01:37 PM
It seems to me like you have too much expertise. The dodgecap is 6%, and if you're staying behind the target at all times - as you should be - you'll never be parried. Ditch your expertise gem in your pants for crit and the expertise enchant on your bracers for Greater Assault. As the others have said, change your hit for crit until you're just special capped.

Spec-wise, you're pretty solid with the changes you mentioned. Make the alterations to hit and expertise and you should see your DPS jump up.

Kazeyonoma
04-22-2009, 01:44 PM
6.5%

firestorm
04-22-2009, 02:59 PM
sorry to jump in on your post but though it abit silly to make a new post to basicly ask the same question this is my armoury link The World of Warcraft Armory (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Firest%C3%B3rm) now the proplem i am having is i don't appear to be doing half
as much damage as i should i am lucky if i come 4th on a dps meater :(
my normal rotasion is (when in a party or raid) pop bloodrage then hit intercept normal swing to rebuild rage then i spam BT, WW and whliles there on cd keep hitting HS reinse and repet (hummm i think ive just worked out why i am doing so little dps) but ill post anyway and check sometimes ill hit hamstring and not heroic strike would that make alot of diffrences to my dps out put? any advices recieved with thanks

Warwench
04-22-2009, 04:06 PM
sorry to jump in on your post but though it abit silly to make a new post to basicly ask the same question this is my armoury link The World of Warcraft Armory (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khadgar&n=Firest%C3%B3rm) now the proplem i am having is i don't appear to be doing half
as much damage as i should i am lucky if i come 4th on a dps meater :(
my normal rotasion is (when in a party or raid) pop bloodrage then hit intercept normal swing to rebuild rage then i spam BT, WW and whliles there on cd keep hitting HS reinse and repet (hummm i think ive just worked out why i am doing so little dps) but ill post anyway and check sometimes ill hit hamstring and not heroic strike would that make alot of diffrences to my dps out put? any advices recieved with thanks

your crit is way way way low.

Crit is the magical key to DPS for the Fury Warrior. Crit is why they nerf'd Titans Grip. If you look at all of the BiS Warriors pre 3.1, their unbuffed Crit was in the mid 40's.. my own is 41%..

STR/AP is wonderful because the harder you hit, the harder you crit... but AP is not going to do you a whole lot of good unless you Crit pretty often.

Free Crit from AGI is what makes the Fury Warriors do the big numbers, lots of the AGI based items have AP, Crit, another DPS stat and then AGI/Crit again ..

so yeah, you need to up that Crit, and that will come through gear, i woudlnt go gemming for Crit, but you wont see great DPS until your Crit is in the 30's.

firestorm
04-22-2009, 05:52 PM
ok first thanks for the info, so let me see if i am understanding you right my rotasion is fine but the reason i aint doing high end damage is cause my crit is only 26.4% and i want start doin the big numbers until i hit @ least 30% crit and that willl come as i get new gear, have i understood what you said right?

curtisls87
04-22-2009, 06:01 PM
Pretty much. you have some hit to give away, so if you can trade that for crit, do it.

Also, I noticed your meta gem. I suggest you replace it with Chaotic Skyflare Diamond (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41285). The extra 3% damage on Crit is huge.

firestorm
04-23-2009, 05:15 AM
ok so based on what ive read my roatasion of blood rage, intercept, heroic strike, bloodthrist, wirlwind, hamstring, if Bt and WW are of cd repeat, if i also replace my meta gem with Chaotic Skyflare Diamond (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41285)
and maybe replace my Accurate Monarch Topaz (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40058) that is in my gloves with humm...Smooth Autumn's Glow (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40013) it will make a diffrences might not be a big one but it will defo been noticable, I want start seeing the big numbers untill i can replace's some of my green and blue item's for epic's