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buddhafunk
02-16-2009, 09:03 PM
This is my pally atm The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Buddhafunk) im not sure where to go on from this.. how to get more hp, i gotta drop my engineering and get a new profession

Niian
02-16-2009, 10:24 PM
Enchants.
Shoulders with Sons of Hodir enchants (or scryer/aldor exalted as starters if you don't have Hodir rep)
Cloak with defense/armour
Chest with defense/health
Bracers with stamina
Weapon with Titanium Weapon Chain
Gloves with Armsman

Replace your bracers with Tempered Saronite.
Get rid of the 14 str gem in your belt
Get the stam trinket from heroic AN.

You need to fix your spec.
Dont bother with just 1 point in Stoicism. Get kings for your party, unless you run with another paladin who has it.
Don't bother with Reckoning. For the love of all that is unholy get Sacred Duty, thats 8% free stamina right there.

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVZaxVAbuMteIRGoxo) is a basic Tanking spec. You can take the points out of Divine Guardian (I just chucked them there to fill all the points)
If you want to keep Persuit of Justice (not really needed) then go something like Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=scZ0eVA0uMteIRGoxf00b)

Evantor
02-17-2009, 08:40 AM
Why pray tell would you suggest kings? That is not going to help him other than to make his under geared party happy. The cost of it is too high and it's simply not worth the points. Drop kings, and get benediction from the ret tree. Also, drop those two points in conviction and put them over into stoicism. Yes I am holy, but I play prot off spec.

I also keep persuite of justice. 15% run speed helps when your moronic group scattes and you have to chase down casting range of mobs.

Niian
02-17-2009, 05:47 PM
Why pray tell would you suggest kings? That is not going to help him other than to make his under geared party happy. The cost of it is too high and it's simply not worth the points.
To get to 1H weapon spec you need 3 more points than you can get if you don't select kings. Out of Kings and Stoicism, Kings is more beneficial not only to him as a tank but to the party as a whole.


Drop kings, and get benediction from the ret tree.If you need to get benediction you're aren't managing your mana properly. You need to either get hit more, and avoid more, to utilise B.of Sanctuary, or to judge/seal wisdom.
5Mans you don't need to run with Seal of Corruption.
Benediction is a waste of 5 points.


Also, drop those two points in conviction and put them over into stoicism. I never linked a spec with conviction in it, and his spec doesn't have it.


Yes I am holy, but I play prot off spec. Congratulations. I am prot and play holy offspec.


I also keep persuite of justice. 15% run speed helps when your moronic group scattes and you have to chase down casting range of mobs.Taunt and avengers shield.
If there are ranged mobs get someone in your group to silence, or to CC them, or kill them first. You can easily keep agro over healers with ranged mobs with either a single avengers shield, or just using hand of reckoning.
Most of the time Persuit of Justice is a waste.

In my experience, and I've MT'd almost everything now (minus Sarth and Maly 25) Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVZaxVAbuMteIRGoxo) is the best spec to go for protection. According to TallentChic it is also the most popular spec to go for a Prot Pally (Recommended 3.0.9 Protection Paladin Talent Specs for World of Warcraft - TalentChic - Filter by Paladin class, Protection spec (http://www.talentchic.com/Paladin/Protection))

jonnyV
03-03-2009, 04:47 PM
This is my prot spec.
works great. more aggro then i know what to do with and i never run out of mana.

wep chain and armsman in the mix.

WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Paladin -> Talent Calculator (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000001453053 500310251533312301500322000000000000000000000)

I tank with seal of wiz on mobs and sanc.
will change it up for boss fights.

no holy points for me till they make kings a trainer talent.
But if i had the 5 king points they would go into improved seals maybe.
Never use the seals listed there but little more dps is good.

Stoicism cause without i keep getting stunned and my heart of the crusader and Vindication get dispelled.
And BoM cause i dont always have a ret pally in the group and every little bit helps.

Ascelyon
03-10-2009, 05:33 AM
To be honost, tankadin is confusing me, BUT: 2 big differences in Niian's and jonnyV's specs are that Niian is basicly an offtank spec.
Where jonnyV's spec trees are on full aggro pulling +stat reduction on mobs, Niian is the one that takes it a bit slower. Divine Guardian for instance works great, but as soon as you bubble you lose aggro, which means you have to be the offtank for it to work
As for jonnyV's retri tree, dump Improved Blessing of Might for Improved Judgements because it's quite likely a Retard specced pala will have it already.

Akeber
03-10-2009, 07:19 AM
Actually, Naiian's spec is a proper raid spec for MT or OT duties.

JohhnyV's spec is more suited for 5-mans, and trash, but not very well. He has skipped "Judgements of the Just", a 20% melee attack speed reduction which DOES work on all bosses, and is a huge amount of damage reduction on melee bosses. He took "Vindication" which has a chance to reduces the stats of the mob by 20% and DOES NOT work on bosses (it's a PVP talent). He has also reduced his own threat by not taking 5/5 in seals of the pure, to put points into "Heart of the Crusader" and "Improved blessing of Might", both of which ret pallies already take, and most 25 man raids have a ret these days.

As Niian already mentioned, Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVZaxVAbuMteIRGoxo) is the "proper" prot spec until 3.1. It takes all the survival/mitigation talents, and you should have no problems generating threat in that spec. I'm easily able to stay ahead of some hard hitting DPS in 5s/10s/25s with that spec.