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Krovacs
01-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Currently my tanking trinkets are the Essence of Gossamer - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220) for HP (and the proc is nice too), and Seal of the Pantheon - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36993) for defense rating.

I'm having a hard time locating raid trinkets to replace these. My def is currently 540 exactly, so I definitely would like to upgrade to another +def trinket. And the HP is very nice on the Gossamer, but I could replace it with something else, as long as the benefit was higher.

Just looking for some suggestions. I'm a DK by the way.

Immortal
01-06-2009, 02:18 PM
There is another good defense trinket: Repelling Charge - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39292) . As for another one, Gossamer has the most stamina, except jewelcrafting BoP trinkets, but there are some avoidance and TPS oriented ones avaliable, for example Valor Medal of the First War - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40683)

Dreg
01-06-2009, 02:19 PM
what Immortal said, there are actually very few tanking trinkets out right now.

Krovacs
01-06-2009, 02:28 PM
When I'm tank spec, my dodge rating is about 21% and my parry rating is about 20%. Do you think that changing out the Gossamer for the Valor Medal would be a good idea? or should I stick with the HP plus the proc effect?

Also, thanks for pointing out the drop from Thaddius. My guild has currently gotten as far as Gluth, so I haven't seen it drop yet.

BlazeDale
01-06-2009, 02:31 PM
In my opinion Gossamer is one of the best. You can't go wrong with stamina.

I had the Seal of the Pantheon for awhile and was glad to be rid of it once I got my defense up in other areas. I like to think of the Pantheon as a crutch until you can make up that defense.

Using Valor Medal of the First War now with Gossamer now and I keep trinkets like the the Repelling Charge and the Seal of the Pantheon around for when I need to wear Frost Resist Gear but still am main tanking it.

Kazeyonoma
01-06-2009, 02:47 PM
except... that defense is probably the best avoidance stat right now even over dodge because you get miss, dodge, parry, and undiminished block rating.

So saying that seal of pantheon is a crutch is kinda backwards. Defense is good, leading up to 540 and beyond. Trading defense for dodge albeit netting you a minor increase in avoidance because of the lower dodgerating conversion, makes you lose out on even spreading of avoidance (which is good thanks to DRs) and block rating.

I think equivalent ratings in dodge versus block makes you lose .04% avoidance but gains .33% block.

Dreg
01-06-2009, 02:50 PM
kaze has the answers =).

Leytur
01-06-2009, 02:51 PM
I am a fan of the Seal. I have it right now along with the other blue that gives a block value increase on use. Forget the name. I like them both and haven't found any upgrades worth spending badges/grinding runs for.

Tatt
01-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Their is also a Block Rating/Block Value proc trinket from heroic VH, think the dog boss, Lavander's or somesuch, that is pretty nice, especially for trash and aoe.

BlazeDale
01-06-2009, 02:56 PM
That is a good catch Kaze I'm going to have to look closer and see if If I'm benefiting more from the Valor Medal of the First War or the Repelling Charge. Though I don't think you will talk me out of 111 Stamina

Thanks

Muffin Man
01-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I think people underrate the Alchemy Trinkets.

The SSO epic is +54 defense. While Indestructible Alchemist's Stone - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44323) trades 35 stamina for a huge amount of dodge. I can't quite justify swapping this for Gossamer actually.

Heck, even Mighty Alchemist's Stone - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44324) compares favorably is the baby (and cheaper) version of Mirror of Truth - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40684).

For completeness, a truly awful tanking trinket drops from Gundrak: Offering of Sacrifice - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37638)

Kazeyonoma
01-06-2009, 03:21 PM
Seal of the Pantheon - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36993)

Lavanthor's Talisman - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37872)

Repelling Charge - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39292)

Valor Medal of the First War - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40683)

Essence of Gossamer - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37220)

Darkmoon Card: Greatness - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42987)

Defender's Code - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40257)

Rune of Repulsion - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40372)

Figurine - Ruby Hare - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42341)

Figurine - Monarch Crab - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44063)

Offering of Sacrifice - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37638)

just for easy viewing, here's what I could dig up that is seemingly useful for a tank to trinket with.

Muffin Man
01-06-2009, 03:42 PM
You forgot
Indestructible Alchemist's Stone - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44323)
;-)

Also this version of Greatness will be of interest to druid tanks (and some non druids I'm sure).
Darkmoon Card: Greatness - Item - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44253)

Kazeyonoma
01-06-2009, 03:50 PM
yes, avoidance tanks will like the agi trinket as well and must've overlooked the alch stone hehe.

Bodasafa
01-06-2009, 05:43 PM
Im using:

Repelling Charge - huge defense opens up options in other slots and the HP buff serves as another panic button in a boss encounter.

Essence of Gossamer - Pure Stam, nuff said.

I have in my bags Valor Medal of the First War, so far the only situation I could see needing it would be if I am the hateful tank on Patchwerk in 25 man naxx.

Kazeyonoma
01-06-2009, 06:04 PM
i'm using the same bodasafa, and i swap out the essence for my Lavanthor's for trash. I haven't purchased the Valor yet, I can't find a reason to really use it =T

Niian
01-06-2009, 06:08 PM
Repelling charge as main trinket that never changes.
Essence of Gossamer swaps with another defense trinket or a shield block trinket depending on the fight.