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Ciderhelm
10-31-2008, 07:45 AM
I bit the bullet and made a character with Intelligence and Charisma as primary stats. I never thought I'd do it. My strength is at 2 (yay bobblehead).

The major thing I've learned so far: Fire ants are quite literal.

Lore
10-31-2008, 08:03 AM
Really considering buying it through Steam. I could get it through gamefly for the 360 but my TV sucks and fallout on a console just doesn't seem right.

Belak
10-31-2008, 08:08 AM
From what I've seen, the controls look like they would be much better suited for a console then Oblivion was.

That said, I have the PC version. Not that I'll probably get much play time in once WOTLK comes.

Kazeyonoma
10-31-2008, 10:07 AM
wait you can get fallout3 through steam O_o

Lore
10-31-2008, 10:14 AM
Yeh for $49.99.

The bigger issue with playing it on console for me is that my TV sucks. I think it's actually smaller than my monitor >.>

Temig
10-31-2008, 10:17 AM
$39.99 @ Target apparently. But, since I don't like putting disks into my system just to play games I will likely go the Steam route as well...

Darksend
10-31-2008, 10:18 AM
i want to get it for PC but i just dont think my computer can handle it

/sigh

Rak
10-31-2008, 11:05 AM
It would seem I can never have enough bad karma.

Tatt
10-31-2008, 11:07 AM
1080 lcd sony ftw!!!!!!

Ciderhelm
10-31-2008, 02:36 PM
So far, so good in my Fallout 3 questing. I have severe, annoying issues with enemies packing rocket launchers, though.

Sanelora
10-31-2008, 08:38 PM
See, now if you lived in Australia, you would be paying RETARDED prices. we are paying $114~ for the game. At the current exchange rate it is pretty comparable. However when we were almost at paradigm ($1 = $1) we were paying more than double for games. this makes me angry

Ciderhelm
11-01-2008, 02:47 PM
Vault 112 ftw.

Caulle
11-01-2008, 04:13 PM
Vault 112 ftw.

Don't say anything else! That's my current quest goal! On a side note, how did you handle that nuke in Megaton?

Thgil
11-01-2008, 04:18 PM
I disarmed the nuke. Im a pure good guy, but I always play good characters, evil is borring IMO...

BTW... Plasma weapons FTW, and they obviously played X-com, they shots look exactly like X-com plasma... This makes me happy.

Ciderhelm
11-01-2008, 04:39 PM
I disarmed the nuke. Im a pure good guy, but I always play good characters, evil is borring IMO...

BTW... Plasma weapons FTW, and they obviously played X-com, they shots look exactly like X-com plasma... This makes me happy.
Where the heck are you getting Plasma weapons?!!! I'm stuck with a near-broke Laser Pistol w/ no others to help repair it and all my combat skills maxed in energy weapons.

And, yes, disarmed the nuke! I went about it in a quite-consequential method, though.

Ciderhelm
11-01-2008, 05:05 PM
Ok, haven't found Plasma yet, but I did just find a steady source of Laser Rifles. Niiiiiice.

Caulle
11-01-2008, 07:54 PM
I didn't find many energy weapons until later in the game. They start to drop a lot more frequently as you progress. My proficiencies are in small guns though. Gotta love stealth one shot kills of super mutants.

Ciderhelm
11-01-2008, 08:01 PM
That's pretty sexy, Caulle. Yeah, I'm starting to run into quite a few energy weapons.

Repair and Barter are working wonders for me. Being able to repair my own equipment on the go is not only great for damage output but also great for making money (difference between a high/perfect quality item and a moderately damaged one is enormous, in the hundreds of caps even for basic stuff).

Several of the special abilities earned at each level require Agility, so if I were to do it again, I might lean towards Small Guns and go the Agility route rather than the Perception route. Either way, I'm now spending those skill points working my agility up, and wish I knew where the agi bobblehead was.

Ciderhelm
11-01-2008, 08:07 PM
Oh and the Water Processing guy doesn't ever come back to his shack in my game, which is making me sad because I can't find him and have a bunch of scrap metal for him.

Taelas
11-01-2008, 08:44 PM
Have you played the original Fallout games, and if you have, how similar is Fallout 3 (in style and setting, if nothing else)?

<-- has major concerns about FO being turned into an FPS.

Caulle
11-01-2008, 09:29 PM
@Cider
Yeah, I picked up the Sniper Rifle when I was at Minefield. Ammo can be scarce, but it's fantastic for thinning a pack of Super Mutants from sneak.

Not sure how far you've gotten past the 112 part. There's another major story advancement after that bugged out big time for me. It's an escort quest, so make sure you've got a fresh save before you start it. I ran around for an hour trying to complete it, looked it up online and loads of people had other similar problems too. I had to go back to a previous save and do the whole thing over again. :/

Oh, yeah, and I wish I had put more into repair. Damn that would have been so useful. Every time I go back to town it costs me at least 300 caps to repair all my stuff.


Have you played the original Fallout games, and if you have, how similar is Fallout 3 (in style and setting, if nothing else)?

<-- has major concerns about FO being turned into an FPS.

I have no played the original FO games, but did you ever play Oblivion? FO3 is like that (same studio). There is a strong shooter component to the game, but it's nothing like playing something like Crysis. Crysis is a breeze compared to this game because so long as you can stick your crosshair over their head, they're pretty much dead. With FO3, there's an RPG aspect so despite how accurate you are as a player, your character can still miss a great deal depending on how you set them up, what weapons you're using etc.

Taelas
11-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Yeah, I've played Oblivion, but I didn't like it much. :( In fact, that's one of the things that worried me.

The original Fallout games were isometric (well, not exactly, but close enough) and turn-based, both of which Bethesda pretty much did away with.

Caulle
11-01-2008, 09:51 PM
Yeah, I've played Oblivion, but I didn't like it much. :( In fact, that's one of the things that worried me.

Bah!

Kazeyonoma
11-02-2008, 12:12 AM
Same Norrath, I am concerned as well as I favored the isometric look.

Ciderhelm
11-02-2008, 05:50 AM
Fallout is what Oblivion should have been. I enjoyed Oblivion but I didn't think it was a spectacular game (nor did I think Morrowind was). I also thought at the time Oblivion came out, especially w/ the character models, that they were going in a poor direction given their talent -- I remember specifically saying that the engine could not be used for another successful game.


But I was wrong. Fallout 3 is beautiful in a post-apocalyptic way, the character models have gone above and beyond what I expected from Bethesda, and most of all, the game doesn't play like an FPS.

I didn't play Fallout 1 and 2, but I did play two similar games -- X-Com and the Ultima series. I say similar because of the comparisons I've read to parts of those games (openness of Ultima, highly tactical nature of X-Com). Fallout 3 feels a lot like X-Com thanks to the VATS system, which allows you to go into a fluid "turn-based" mode and tactically go for body parts, etc. Looks awesome, is implemented awesome.

I'd guess that if any game could capture the feel of an old isometric game in 3d, Bethesda has managed to do it. Beyond that, the game is just a really enjoyable RPG all the way through.

Ciderhelm
11-02-2008, 05:51 AM
Caulle, I think I'm past the point you're referring to. Is it the immediate follow-up to 112 regarding Project Purity?

Caulle
11-02-2008, 06:02 AM
Caulle, I think I'm past the point you're referring to. Is it the immediate follow-up to 112 regarding Project Purity?

Yeah, that's the one. When we first left the Project Purity place, I didn't talk to her and just figured I'd run ahead and clear everything out so they didn't get killed. Well, I got to the end and turned around and she was standing right there. So I'm like "Okay, we're here, let's go." and she says "Follow me" but just stood there. And no, shooting my gun wildly into the air to scare her into leaving didn't work.

Synestar
11-02-2008, 06:04 AM
Fallout 3 is very different from the original 2. I am a bigger fan of Fallout 1 then all of them. That being said I think Fallout 3 is great for what it is. The VATS system in the game that works very similar to the original Fallout where the combat will stop and you have action points to use to make "Called Shots" i.e. target the arms, head, legs which makes this feel a bit nostalgic. However after the action stops you go back to normal speed and if the monster isn't dead then he is coming at you immediately and it takes time to build the action points again. My only complaint is the game is too short if you go through the main quests only. My friend called me the day after it came out and told me he beat it in 4 hours total playing time, however he told me he didn't do any side quests to which I replied that he is just a noob.

Klimpen
11-02-2008, 06:10 AM
Recommended buy?

I'm someone who generally finds it difficult to be truly comfortable playing a FPS, that's not to say that I havn't enjoyed playing some immensely [HL2/CoD4/Bioshock[too easy/art direction made up for it]].

Is this a game that has the quality needed for someone who usually shies away from the genre to pick up?

Ciderhelm
11-02-2008, 06:54 AM
Klimpen, w/ the games you listed, Fallout 3 is definitely a recommended buy. It is not an FPS, it just happens to allow FPS encounters at some points. Most battles can be won w/o manually firing your weapons at a target at all, instead using the VATS targetting system to make called shots, etc.

Caulle
11-02-2008, 07:18 AM
But I was wrong. Fallout 3 is beautiful in a post-apocalyptic way, the character models have gone above and beyond what I expected from Bethesda, and most of all, the game doesn't play like an FPS.

The world detail is definitely better than Oblivion, and runs better too. Wow. The draw distance (and tricks implemented) is insane. I can see two towns over from the top of Tenpenny.

Bethesda needs to work on their character animations IMO. I never played in 3rd person in Oblivion or this game either because they look so goofy. I only pull out to 3rd when I'm trying to scout around corners. They look great, but they run like super models.

Ciderhelm
11-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Not sure how I feel about the ending. More specifically, not sure how I feel about forcing me to the credits with no option to continue playing.

Do I restart w/ a new character and new goals or do I just turn around and walk back out the door?

//edit: Scratch that, can't walk back out the door. New character inc!

Thgil
11-02-2008, 10:04 PM
I just went to an earlier save.

I finished the game, I liked the ending and did all the self sacrificing stuff... Now im trying melee character.

Turkson
11-02-2008, 11:22 PM
I find it odd and interesting that all the Fallout 3 threads end up veering off onto other video games.

Klimpen
11-03-2008, 01:24 AM
Speaking of other videogames.

Settlers6. It's honestly one of the most average games I've ever played in my entire life. It honestly feels like Ikariam as a 3d RTS. I cannot recommend it. Shallow and unfun are probably the first two words I'd use to describe it. Nearly as shallow as spore. I would be playing Age of Wonders 2 if the damn game didn't require a CD to install the official noCD patch. >;(

Caulle
11-03-2008, 04:50 AM
I find it odd and interesting that all the Fallout 3 threads end up veering off onto other video games.

Srsly. Wrath's out next week, so it's not like anyone here is going to be playing anything else anyways! Except me because I'm a sucker and got engaged to the only man on the planet who loathes Warcraft so I have to double dip into Warhammer.

Actually, I really do have a crap ton of games I should catch up on. I know CoD4 is lying around here somewhere, didn't finish off Crysis, and I think Assassin's Creed is still in the wrapper somewhere. >_<

Ciderhelm
11-03-2008, 06:09 AM
I'm gonna have to try out Red Alert 3, though I'm not positive I want to. Fallout 3 still has so much to offer.

Kazeyonoma
11-03-2008, 09:55 AM
no internet at home until the 13th (the day wotlk comes out lawlz), maybe FO3 will be a good outlet... or I can just... play Bioshock again.

Tatt
11-03-2008, 09:56 AM
Gears of War II.......omg.......

Taelas
11-06-2008, 06:19 AM
Having very recently played through Mass Effect, I am immensely relieved w/regards to FPS in an RPG. (Mass Effect is awesome.)

Gief FO3!

Caulle
11-06-2008, 06:55 AM
Having very recently played through Mass Effect, I am immensely relieved w/regards to FPS in an RPG. (Mass Effect is awesome.)

Gief FO3!

Indeed it is. I should have picked up the PC version, but I've got a 28 hour saved filed on my fiancees Xbox out west. I'll just have to finish it when I move. >_<

Klimpen
11-06-2008, 11:19 AM
Speaking of FPS/RPGs, they're making a 40k MMO, that should be quite awesome. Not sure how they'd balance factions though, since everyone basically hates everyone.

Ciderhelm
11-06-2008, 12:35 PM
Speaking of FPS/RPGs, they're making a 40k MMO, that should be quite awesome. Not sure how they'd balance factions though, since everyone basically hates everyone.
Probably similar to how factions were for Warcraft, no? Night Elves weren't Alliance and Undead weren't Horde prior to World of Warcraft (even if the groundwork was there).

Man▀earpig
11-06-2008, 12:38 PM
Probably similar to how factions were for Warcraft, no? Night Elves weren't Alliance and Undead weren't Horde prior to World of Warcraft (even if the groundwork was there).

They would have to do some serious buildup lore to make this happen for 40k.

Klimpen
11-06-2008, 03:14 PM
They'd have to put a lot of spin on it.

I guess you could go with Imperium of Man vs Tyranids/Orcs vs Eldar/Tau vs Dark Eldar/Chaos vs Everyone else.

A lot of spin.

I think there's a primary difference between Warcraft and Warhammer. Warhammer's slogan is "In the grimdarkness of the future, there is only war". Hope has been removed from the equation. Humanity will probably lose [And has already lost if you consider morality/ethics to be the basis of humanity].

Kazeyonoma
11-10-2008, 09:36 AM
So i went and got this... and it's pretty awesome, but having religiously played FO1 and 2, this is definitely not the same, the VAT system is cool and all, but it has definite fallbacks, and not having the turn based combat is kinda meh, I find that I use the VAT system just to pause combat, sneak a shot in to pray for a crit, and then continue my Counterstrike Tactics. Not sure how far I am in the game though, I think I just finished fixing the satellite and am making my way back to Three Dog.

Rak
11-10-2008, 09:37 AM
VATS is especially good for things such as shooting a missile launcher or minigun out of someone's hand. Hard to pull off without it.

Dismember
11-10-2008, 10:43 AM
Sniper rifle/scoped .44 + VATS head targeting + Bloody Mess perk = WIN

Nothing like shooting a Deathclaw in the head, seeing it's arms and legs explode, and watching the torso fly 30 feet through the air. In slow motion. Complete with Fawkes screaming like a maniac in the background in a creepy, slo-mo distorted voice.

Kazeyonoma
11-10-2008, 11:02 AM
I admit VATS has saved me a lot, but since I've kinda screwed up my char not for guns and is now mostly a melee char, I rely on my CS skills to shoot people from afar more than the VATS

Taelas
11-11-2008, 10:10 AM
Not particularly a fan of the game so far... the gameplay is too much like Oblivion. Having people walking around is novel, but it makes finding them a bitch.

Kazeyonoma
11-11-2008, 10:14 AM
that is indeed annoying, but the game itself isn't that bad imo, i thought the FPS change would've made me hate it but it's playing a lot like Bioshock right now.

Taelas
11-11-2008, 10:25 AM
I'm not a huge fan of FPS-games, and the third-person view sucks. I can stomach it, it's just a downside for me. Oh well.