View Full Version : 100 Badges, suggestions?

10-09-2008, 12:31 PM
After my next run of nearly any Heroic or higher, I will have 100 badges. I'd like to buy something and upgrade before 3.0 hits on Tuesday. I'm only doing Gruul's and Kara at the moment but I'd like to try to run ZA after the patch and experience some other raids as well. I'm in the Beta and I've been tanking on there with lesser gear than I have now with no problem, but I don't know exactly how the badge gear is going to change or not (it's DLing more patchs atm, can't check).

I already have the Gnomeregan Auto-Blocker 600 and Slikk's Cloak of Placation, so I'm looking the more expensive items from "SSO" vendor.

Here are the items I have paired with the potential upgrade item and stats (+ means a modifier will make it more, and all upgrades are assuming gems and enchants are already added versus what's in my current gear):

Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable
Girdle of the Fearless - cost 75 badges
upgrade gives: 180+ armor, 10+ stam, -16 STR, +10 DEF, -20 SB rating, +23 Hit, +22 Expertise

Seems like a nice +threat item, and some decent mitigation.

Panzar'Thar Breastplate (and I sometimes use Merciless Gladiator's for threat)
Chestplate of Stoicism - cost 100 badges
upgrade gives: 350+ armor, 15+ stam, +25 DEF, -28 SB rating, -8 Hit, +34 Dodge

Seems like a great effective health and mitigation peice.

Protector's Mark of the Redemption
Ring of the Stalwart Protector - cost 60 badges
upgrade gives: 392+ armor, 23+ stam, +28 Dodge, -25 DEF, -15 SBV (but would add in for the pure SBV item set, just would loose it for my 'best' overall tanking gear)

Seems like a nice upgrade but the -25 DEF really hurts my gear set. However, just for the sake of arguement, I have 3 level 70s and none of them have EVER been fully epic geared. My hunter is close, and was kind of close back in the Molten Core/BWL/AQ 20 days, but never quite made it. The ring is the last blue piece I can't replace with an epic. It would be, imo, an achievement for me to finally have an epic for every slot for one specific talent build. However, yes, I conceed that this means nothing I should go for the overall best upgrade, but if anybody feels it's a tie between the ring and something, I might just have to go with the ring, lol.

Note: I just upgraded my Timewarden's Leggings with the Wrynn Dynasty Greaves, and promptly put the nethercleft patch on them and some threat gems, so it would really hurt my pocket book if I replaced them with the badge loot as I haven't even been able to tank with these new greaves yet. For argument's sake, I'll post them:

Wrynn Dynasty Greaves
Sunguard Leggings - cost 100 badges
upgrade gives: 275+ armor, +42 stam, +16 DEF, +6 Dodge, +23 Expertise, -28 STR, -16 Hit

Seems to a nice effective health upgrade and a minus on threat. Right now the Greaves are gemmed with Hit Rating and the +str/stam gem ... if they were gemmed for HP, then it'd be a bit more of an overall upgrade but not nearly as much for effective health. I don't think they're worth paying 100 badges for at this point, especially since I spent a bunch of gold to gem up the Greaves (don't have much money left, preparing for leveling Inscriptions and I'm kinda broke now).

Last but not least I can get:

Ring of Unyielding Force - costs 25 badges
upgrade gives: 294+ armor, 6+ stam, -3 DEF, -15 SBV

I would get this to replace my blue ring if I got the badge Belt upgrade.

In conclusion, I just don't really know what to do, they all seem like great upgrades. I'm leaning towards the belt and the last ring I talked about.

Can anybody give me some insight that I might be missing? Thank you in advance for any help you might be able to give.

(PS, I don't know how to link items with a mouse-over tooltip, sorry).

10-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Belt has always been the best upgrade of the new tank gear, should still apply to 3.0 and beyond. My choice would be belt and save badges for the new ring with dodge, not the old one. Might take a few more weeks, but 2 extremely good upgrades...the chest and legs I do not feel are that much better.

10-09-2008, 12:54 PM
Thank you. I just don't know if I'll have enough time to run that many instances/raids to get the other ring. I've been very busy at work, which is probably the largest reason my character is broke and why I'm only now getting to the point where I can buy an expensive badge piece (expensive from my point of view).

Perhaps I'll try that, and if I can't get that many badges just prior to the expansion I can get the lower cost ring.

Anybody else have a different suggestion, or reinforce the same?

10-09-2008, 03:09 PM
Well, before making any decisions, I'd go back through and do the comparison with post patch values.
I'll list the values without gems or enchants, so you'll want to take those into consideration(mostly gems, as I assume you'll keep enchants the same).

Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=28566) -> Girdle of the Fearless - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34941) change post patch:
+177 armor, +3 str, +22 stam, +10 def rating, -16 shield block rating, +22 expertise rating, -1 socket

Panzar'Thar Breastplate - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=28597) -> Chestplate of Stoicism - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34939) change post patch:
+315 armor, +10 str, +27 stam, +8 def rating, +34 dodge rating, -2 sockets

Wrynn Dynasty Greaves - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=28621) -> Sunguard Legplates - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34940) change post patch:
+275 armor, +5 str, +30 stam, +8 def rating, -1 dodge rating, +23 expertise rating, -1 socket

The rings aren't getting changed with the patch.

So if you look at it, the chest will get you the best survivability gains, and the legs will give you the best threat gains(very marginally better than the belt), and the legs are also the best all around gains.

But there may be a way for you to still have your cake and eat it too :P

You've got 100 badges, and they won't be of any use to you after the expansion hits(Nov 13). You need to determine how many more badges you're likely to get. Lets's assuming you don't get any more badges. In that case, you could get both the cheap ring and the belt for 100 badges, which nets you:

Indomitable+ Protector's Mark of the Redemption - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=31078) ->Fearless + Ring of Unyielding Force - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=29384)
+452 armor, +28 stam, +7 def, -16 shield block rating, -15 shield block value, +22 expertise rating, -1 socket

Now if you can get 35 more badges the following options open up for you:
Indomitable+Redemption->Fearless + Ring of the Stalwart Protector - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=34888)
+569 armor, +3 str, +55 stam, -15 defense rating, -16 shield block rating, -15 shield block value, +28 dodge rating, +22 expertise rating, -1 socket

Panzar + Amber Bands of the Aggressor - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=29463) -> Stoicism + Bracers of the Ancient Phalanx - Item - World of Warcraft (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=33516)
+410 armor, +10 str, -18 agi, +47 stam, +7 def rating, +34 dodge rating, +15 expertise rating, -1 socket

Wrynn+Agressor -> Sunguard+Phalanx
+370 armor, +5 str, -18 agi, +50 stam, +7 def, -1 dodge rating, +38 expertise rating, -1 socket

If you can get more badges, even more options open up for you. Overall, I'd lean towards the belt+ring options. The expansion's near on the horizon, give it 3 months and you probably won't be wearing any of your current gear, but you might still remember the day you finally got full epics :P

But you'll want to keep your crit immunity in mind, whichever route you choose. With the patch, you're going to lose 20 defense points from the anticipation change, and possibly a bit of defense rating elsewhere from the reitemization. If you dont' lose any defense from gear, you'll be close enough that one of the sets with a net defense gain will prevent you form having to gem and enchant any more for defense.

10-09-2008, 07:47 PM
Thank you very much for your analysis, Caireagin. Yes, I'd love more badges, I just honestly don't know if I can spend much time to make any significant gain in getting more for another item's worth, just way too busy IRL and also helping some friends level up prior to expansion. That would be the best way to go, but I don't think it's realistic for me, personally. If I were somebody else, I'd hold off like you suggest.

Thanks again, both of you, for responding.