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ceffo
05-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Well went back to kara to help level some new guys in guild get gear for 25 mans.

After downing prince. I looked at logs to see if i was parry gibbed because i saw my HP drop from 21k to under 13k during phase 2 quite quickly and knew i was gibbed from the WWS logs

Question here is im over the expertise soft cap and currently had on 80 expertise rating.

I know that some of the bosses have a base amount that expertise cannot ever overcome.

Does this seem right?

Seloei
05-21-2008, 03:38 AM
in phase2 he hits insanely fast, so your shield block charges might have worn off and you ate a crushing. He dualwields in that phase and hurts, so might not have been a "parry gib" (still don't believe that myth)

Alent
05-21-2008, 03:42 AM
Boss parry can be up to 15%. "softcap" is dodge only, and if you have 80 rating you're not at the actual softcap anyway. Softcap vs 73 is 23 skill, not 20 skill. (80 rating = 20 skill, roughly.) You've reduced his chance to parry your attacks by 4.6%, he still has somewhere inbetween 5.6 and 10.6% chance to parry you depending on what his individual parry chance is.

That said, Seloei is probably right. Phase 2 prince has a rediculously fast dual wield attack speed, you probably just ate a crush or two from natural speed. Going into phase 2 especially you can easily take some huge burst damage if he gets a crush string on you, to the point of being instagibbed without being parried.

Gzipper
05-23-2008, 09:31 AM
Prince gains Thrash which gives him 2 instant hits. So if your unlucky you could get alot of damage, add a parry gib. If it proccs off his MH and/or OH I dont know.


2/10 22:45:16.921 Prince Malchezaar hits Dunn for 4767.
2/10 22:45:17.640 Prince Malchezaar gains 2 extra attacks through Thrash.
2/10 22:45:17.640 Prince Malchezaar hits Dunn for 4287.
2/10 22:45:17.656 Prince Malchezaar hits Dunn for 4154.
2/10 22:45:17.953 Prince Malchezaar hits Dunn for 2581.
2/10 22:45:18.343 Dunn dies.

Old CL.

Tyriall
06-06-2008, 12:13 PM
Last week Prince gibbed me pretty hard. My pocket watch had just worn off and Prince ate through my shield blocks, then gained thrash and crushed on both (each were about 6300 or so). It was quite nasty to glance at my health, which was at about 87% or so, and then look down to check my shield block timer and then see the "You are dead" thing pop up on my screen.

Edit: Found my WWS Log. 21,276 damage in 3 seconds.



22:44'02.375 Prince Malchezaar's Swing hits Tyriall for 3371 Physical damage (236 blocked)
22:44'03.687 Prince Malchezaar's Swing hits Tyriall for 1444 Physical damage (236 blocked)
22:44'04.000 Prince Malchezaar's Swing misses Tyriall
22:44'05.312 Prince Malchezaar's Swing hits Tyriall for 2996 Physical damage (crushing)
22:44'05.640 Prince Malchezaar's Swing misses Tyriall
22:44'05.671 Prince Malchezaar's Swing hits Tyriall for 6685 Physical damage (crushing)
22:44'05.671 Prince Malchezaar's Swing hits Tyriall for 6780 Physical damage (crushing)

gilthanus
06-09-2008, 10:40 AM
I had the same thing happen to me on my 1st Prince kill about 3 months ago. 1st time ever to Prince, with a new guild, and none of us had ever run together, so it was a rather fond moment. We made it through Phase 1 and 2, only had to back him up once because of an infernal. I'm watching his life creep down, 25%, 20%, 15, 10%, then he gets to 3%, and I go from 13k, to dead before the druid off-healer can so much as get 1 tick on a HoT off. He kills 4 dps in the raid, gets to the feral drood who dropped into bear and the 1/2 raid finished off his 3% life. Check the logs, I got SB up, but it was down about .5 sec before the CD, and he parried me 3 times in a row. It was all good though, as I got a Prince kill in. Hope to be back to him soon :D

Bosk
06-12-2008, 08:15 AM
I got took 16317 in 0.01 seconds! Scared the hell out of me :)

http://avengersshield.googlepages.com/Prince-Malchezaar.jpg

clavarnway
06-12-2008, 08:41 AM
Wow that's crazy. How does a Pally get crushed though, I thought the 8 charges basically ensured even against Prince that you can get it up again in time? Or maybe I'm just underestimating Prince, maybe he gained Thrash there.

Muggs
06-12-2008, 08:45 AM
Bosk is a warrior (note the +1 rage from Shield Spec), I'm guessing the Paladin was using a libram that gives +res?

Also, Clav, I usually get about 2% crushings from any given boss as a pally cause they like to slip then in during that 1/2 second it takes me to reactivate my shield (and I have some latency issues once and a while).

clavarnway
06-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Bosk is a warrior (note the +1 rage from Shield Spec), I'm guessing the Paladin was using a libram that gives +res?

Also, Clav, I usually get about 2% crushings from any given boss as a pally cause they like to slip then in during that 1/2 second it takes me to reactivate my shield (and I have some latency issues once and a while).
Wow you are right. I saw Greater Blessing of Sanctuary and Vengeance and assumed Paladin. :eek: Now I see that the Vengeance is probably a proc from the Darkmoon Card, and I guess there was a Prot pally in the raid but not taking Prince.