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Lunestone
04-26-2008, 05:55 PM
So my guild is asking for our wishlists... can I say what a headache I have picking what upgrades I want over others? Feels like it's really splitting hairs now.... I still need upgrades from SSC/TK but it's not like i'll be MT, right now i'm like the fourth tank since I just joined, my guild is very much ahead of me on gear so I dunno what upgrades I will be getting before we're done in there. I'm going to post my list, please lemme know what you think?

I'm Lunestone on Kargath if you wanna see current gear... not too hard to find since I believe i'm the only 70 Lunestone in game :)

Weapon

1. [The Unbreakable Will] 100.3dps 1.6 Sword 33STA TP:4686
The World of Warcraft Armory (Anetheron - Hyjal)
*Only if I don't get mallet or Brutalizer yet*

[The Brutalizer] 100.3dps 1.6 Axe 33STA TP:3548
The World of Warcraft Armory (Supremus - Black Temple)

Shields

1. 60STA TP:37900 *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Illidan Stormrage - Black Temple)

2. [Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart] 43STA+ +1.3%hit TP:34815 base
The World of Warcraft Armory (Kaz'rogal - Hyjal)
* 1 gem slot

[B]Ranged Weapons
1. [Rifle of the Stoic Guardian] 31STA TP:3491
The World of Warcraft Armory (Teron Gorefiend - Black Temple)


Bracers
*Sidegrade, has more avoidance though*
1. [Eternium Shell Bracers] 52STA TP:9896 *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (High Warlord Naj'entus - Black Temple)

Belt
1. [Girdle of Stability] 56STA+ TP:12610(11312 base) *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Gurtogg Bloodboil - Black Temple)
* 2 gem slots

Gauntlets

3. [Gauntlets of Enforcement] 70STA TP:11296
The World of Warcraft Armory (Teron Gorefiend - Black Temple)
* 21 weapon skill rating

Shoulders
1. [Pauldrons of Abyssal Fury] 72STA TP:13072
The World of Warcraft Armory (Supremus - Black Temple)

Prefer Onslaught
2. [Onslaught Shoulderguards] 53STA+ TP:12585(11287 base) *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Mother Shahraz - Black Temple)
* 2 gem slots

Boots
1. [Myrmidon's Treads] 56STA+ +1.1%hit TP:12850(11552 base) *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Shade of Akama - Black Temple)
* 2 gems slots

Chest
*Saving for badge chest which is best anyway*
[Chestplate of Stoicism] (1765 Armor, 78STA, 51Def, 34Dodge, 39Block) TP:19123(18474 base)
(Heroic Badges)
* 1 gem slots

1. [Onslaught Chestguard] 69STA+ TP:18862(16915 base) *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Illidan Stormrage - Black Temple)

2. [Glory of the Defender] 75STA +2.2%hit TP:16828
The World of Warcraft Armory (Azgalor - Hyjal)

Helm
1. [Faceplate of the Impenetrable] 82STA+ TP:19118(16046 base) *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Illidan Stormrage - Black Temple)
* 1 meta, 1 gem slot

2. [Destroyer Greathelm] T5 tank 48STA+ TP:15973(12901 base)
The World of Warcraft Armory (SSC - Lady Vashj)
* 1 meta gem, 1 gem slot

3. [Onslaught Greathelm] 48STA+ TP:15733(12661 base)
(Sidegrade to Destroyer but more threat)
The World of Warcraft Armory (Archimonde - Hyjal)
* 1 meta, 1 gem slot

Leggings

1. [Onslaught Legguards] 78STA+ TP:18418(17769 base)
The World of Warcraft Armory (Illdari Council - Black Temple)
* 1 gem slot

Back

4. [Pepe's Shroud of Pacification] 45STA +1.5%hit TP:5247 *top stamina*
The World of Warcraft Armory (Hyjal trash)

Neck
2. [Pendant of Titans] 43STA +1.3%hit TP:6147
The World of Warcraft Armory (Reliquary of Souls - Black Temple)

[Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve] (48STA, 13hit, 18Expertise) TP:2605 *top stamina*
(Shattered Sun - Exalted)
* Dodge or Expertise proc

Ring

1. (Scale of the Sands Tanking Exaulted & Revered) 43STA TP:6378
The World of Warcraft Armory (Hyjal rep reward - Exaulted)
* armor proc


[Sunwell Badge Loot - Tank Ring] (392Armor, 45STA, 28Dodge) TP:6316
(Heroic Badges)

[Band of the Abyssal Lord] 53STA +1.3%hit TP:5054
The World of Warcraft Armory (Supremus - Black Temple)

[B]Trinket
Insignia more for avoidance
1. [Shadowmoon Insignia] TP:5861 passive, + TP:9462 for 20 sec proc / 3 min cooldown (1051 average over time)
The World of Warcraft Armory (Gurtogg Bloodboil - Black Temple)
* 1750 max hp on use

[Commendation of Kael'thas] 57STA TP:3298 passive + 14782 for 10 sec proc / 30 sec cooldown (4927 averate over time)
(Heroic Magister's Terrace - Priestess Delrissa)
152 Dodge for 10 seconds / 30 seconds

taro
04-27-2008, 01:35 AM
My guild uses DKP system so I don't know how Wish List works, but my thoughts:

You've included some Heroic Magister's/badge loots like Commendation of Kael'thas and Sunwell Badge loot Ring. Band of eternal defender is Hyjal Rep loot.

Some things you can find a decent replacement with badge gear. W/ your badge bracer and legs, Eternium Shell Bracers and T6 Leg can be pushed to the bottom of your wish list.

If you are a bit far behind in line and your guild is just getting into Hyjal/BT, maybe you should put items like Kaz'rogal's Hardened Heart as your #1 priority not Bulwark of Azzinoth -- because it is still going to be a while till Illidan. Also if you PVP, Vengeful Gladiator's Shield Wall is pretty decent. It is almost as good as Kaz'rogal shield imo.

T6 Shoulder is much better than Pauldrons of Abyssal Fury. But also lots of guilds get stuck in Mother for a while (mine did) because of SR gear unless your server already have guilds in BT who sells Hearts of Darknesses.

If you can get the helm from ZA, you can skip T6 helm.

A couple items that I think should be on top at this point:
The Unbreakable Will (With a combination of some badge gears and other items, I soft cap expertise easily without The Brutalizer, and you'll get to Anetheron really soon.)
Gauntlets of Enforcement
Myrmidon's Treads
Shadowmoon Insignia
T6 Shoulders

Lunestone
04-27-2008, 06:54 PM
Yeah I know I included some rep and badge gear... this includes my own personal list I should've mentioned ;) We use DKP too but they want a general idea of who needs what and I think it gets people motivated for pushing along too...

But thanks... it's kinda hard to know what to focus on when I look at this long list lol...

Minirage
04-27-2008, 11:18 PM
*Only if I don't get mallet or Brutalizer yet*

Before I comment on your whole thread I think you need to rethink some things.

Brutalizer is not better than unbreakable will.
Nor, is Unbreakable will better than Brutalizer.

A good tank has gear options for all encounters and what role (s)he is performing.

Lunestone
05-03-2008, 12:31 PM
I don't believe I said either is better.

I have to prioritize my dkp. I have to be careful not to put my dkp on a second weapon if there are other upgrades I need. Maybe you have the luxury of rolling on whatever you like and not having to worry if you have the dkp to bid on any item. I do not. Although realistically Unbreakable Will will come first, I can have a preference -_-

Endal
05-03-2008, 01:10 PM
The best thing you could do would be to replace the spyglass with the heroic MGT trinket iimo...Also, definately do ZA that helm is spectacular! Apart from that, the main thing you need to replace is your wep.

Aelvain
05-08-2008, 12:05 AM
Brutalizer is not better than unbreakable will.
Nor, is Unbreakable will better than Brutalizer.



Definitely wrong, Brutalizer is better than Unbreakable Will for pretty much every situation.

Kazeyonoma
05-08-2008, 09:55 AM
Brutalizer is better in almost every situation than Unbreakable Will.

If you're human, Mallet of Tides provides you more threat than Unbreakable Will.

Otherwise, Brutalizer > all.

MasterWolf
05-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Vene also put one up on Tankingtips.