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08-20-2007, 09:29 AM

Thunderfury vs King’s Defender in regards to Devastate

Devastate is calculated as the following…

(Weapon Damage / 2) + (35 * Number of Sunders) - Mitigation

The following accurate data reworked by Armstrong assumes the proc of TF does 300 damage = 300 threat with a 20% proc rate and 5 sunders.

For what it's worth, actual average Devastate damage based on 1200 AP and 15% crit, before mitigation looks like this:

TF: (((44+16 + 115+30) /2 + 1200/14) /2 + 175) * 1.15 = 378

KD: (((98 + 182) /2 + 1200/14) /2 + 175) *1.15 = 400

Let's use an arbitrary 30% mitigation, and assume that 5/5 1H Spec roughly cancels out the 10% Def Stance penalty. We then get:

TF: 265

KD: 280

Now with (300 x 0.2) = 60 threat from TF's proc, TF comes out on top for Devastate threat alone:

TF: 325

KD: 280

If TF's threat is not affected by threat modifiers, we get the following:

TF: (265 + 101) * 1.3 * 1.15 + 60 = 607

KD: (280 + 101) * 1.3 * 1.15 = 570

And we find that Thunderfury does more threat than King’s Defender when using Devastate.

Which means:

1. TF > KD when using Revenge

2. TF > KD when using Devastate

3. TF = KD when using Shield Slam

Which explains why it can keep up and ultimately out threat King's Defender.

Update: Thanks Armstrong for steering this away from theory and closer to something factual.

Devastate is calculated as the following…

(Weapon Damage / 2) + (35 * Number of Sunders) - Mitigation

The following accurate data reworked by Armstrong assumes the proc of TF does 300 damage = 300 threat with a 20% proc rate and 5 sunders.

For what it's worth, actual average Devastate damage based on 1200 AP and 15% crit, before mitigation looks like this:

TF: (((44+16 + 115+30) /2 + 1200/14) /2 + 175) * 1.15 = 378

KD: (((98 + 182) /2 + 1200/14) /2 + 175) *1.15 = 400

Let's use an arbitrary 30% mitigation, and assume that 5/5 1H Spec roughly cancels out the 10% Def Stance penalty. We then get:

TF: 265

KD: 280

Now with (300 x 0.2) = 60 threat from TF's proc, TF comes out on top for Devastate threat alone:

TF: 325

KD: 280

If TF's threat is not affected by threat modifiers, we get the following:

TF: (265 + 101) * 1.3 * 1.15 + 60 = 607

KD: (280 + 101) * 1.3 * 1.15 = 570

And we find that Thunderfury does more threat than King’s Defender when using Devastate.

Which means:

1. TF > KD when using Revenge

2. TF > KD when using Devastate

3. TF = KD when using Shield Slam

Which explains why it can keep up and ultimately out threat King's Defender.

Update: Thanks Armstrong for steering this away from theory and closer to something factual.